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Old April 15th, 2008, 04:19 AM
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Unlock codes are the sole property of the manufacturer. Even though from
time to time you can get then from the tech. ATnT, however seems tobe a bit
more giving tham most companys. maining they like to keep thier cust. happy.
Think of a unlock code as a Windows OEM code, good luck getting that. Theres
vary good resons why most companys will not give them out. Mostly, money,
but, theyll never tell you that. I know with Sprint/Nextel, theyll refer you
to the manufacturer. Besides, you give up most of your rights over hardware
and software usage when you sign a contract with your provider and just like
MicroSoft, can cancle your service and right of use at anytime without
notice. with over 200 billion cell phone users worldwide and more money than
the oil companys makes, well maybe not, equipment unlock codes, IE software
unlock codes, are considered protected property. Now some manufacturers will
give you the codes on some of the phones. Most will not. In fact, in most
cases, if they did you could in since copy it and make you own phone to
sale. It all comes down to cold hard cash and thier not going to give that
away. Ask them one to many times and you might get a call from thier fraud
department. Most people dont understand that most cell phone companys dont
realy care what the cust. thinks, just thier money. Im not trying to sound
like a smart___, but, after working on the inside of more than one network,
Ive come accross this vary subject. Beleave me, they dont like to give them
out for any reson and whena cust asks them, its a red flag to most companys.
So becareful. Now asfar as the provider being required to give you
instruction on sitting up your phone. Nope thier not required todo anything,
in fact, thay can refuse you all togather. Its just not good on thier bottom
line. It all comes down to your cell contract. Until you have that, the
provider doesnt have to provide anything and when you do have one. Your
under what is called" TOU"," Terms Of Use" and with most contarts that TOU
isnt printed on the contart itself. It is control by the provider and can be
changed. Just like software, if you dont accept the "TOU", you want get
anything from them no matter what you payed for the phone. But like a stated
before ATnT seems to want to keep thier cust happier than most other
companys and tend to give in to them, just to them them off the phone. See,
with most cell phone companys, when you call thier tech support, your not
talking to that company. Your talking with a subcontracter like, EDS, ACI,
to name a few. These people get paid to fix your problams, on average,
within 12 min or less. Anything over that and it starts to cost them money
and that time includes hold time. Cell phone manufactures tend to get vary
upset when the company thats selling thier product gives out those codes out
and in fact most companys do not have them. See, when your useing unlock
codes, its not the phone your unlocking, its the software thats on it and
that is vary protected. What most people dont understand, that if you run
out and buy a peace of software, you dont own. youve just bought the right
to use it, within the software TOU agreement and if you look deep enough
into what your agreeing to when buying a cell. Youll see that the software
on that phone is still property of the manufacters and is controled solely
by them and thier not going to give that up. Now as far as network security.
If Ive got the unlock code to your phone. I could, in since, hack your
phone, via bluetooth, and take control over that phone. Which would allow me
to remotely operate the phone and god knows where that could lead. But,
basicly it all comes down to $$$$

"Craig" <netburgher@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in message
news:kx9Hj.16830$5K1.599@newssvr12.news.prodigy.ne t...
> GJIsh wrote:
>> On Mar 7, 1:10 am, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>> GJIsh wrote:
>>>> On Mar 5, 4:36 pm, Craig <netburg...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> idensoluti...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 5, 1:24 pm, "Graciel Contreras" <t...@test.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I found a software to unlock the V3, you can also add video to
>>>>>>> it. Take a look at it......www.freewebs.com/graco14GC
>>>>>> Go here : idensolutions.com Verified Paypal member with lots of
>>>>>> successful transactions.
>>>>> [for U.S. cell phone owners only]
>>>>> It costs nothing to unlock your cell phone, other than the call
>>>>> itself to your carrier. They are obliged to provide you with any
>>>>> instructions and/or code necessary to unlock your phone.
>>>>> Our carrier is ATT/Cingular. I've done this on 4 phones since
>>>>> November 2006. The first time, the representative balked. I had
>>>>> to talk to a supervisor who agreed. Since then, any rep I've
>>>>> spoken to has been able & willing. They either mailed the info
>>>>> needed w/in a few days or talked me through it immediately on the
>>>>> phone. The phones I've unlocked this way are made by Nokia,
>>>>> Motorola & Samsung.
>>>>> If you're interested, I've posted a linky to the source
>>>>> documentation below. If your carrier still refuses, the USCO &
>>>>> your federal Rep would love to hear about it. In fact, I'd be very
>>>>> interested to hear if a carrier /denied/ its customer a request to
>>>>> unlock in the past year or two.
>>>>> -Craig
>>>>> ============
>>>>> On November 17 2006, the US Copyright Office issued a so-called
>>>>> "Recommendation" regarding /exemptions/ to the "circumvention of
>>>>> copyright protection systems." This does not have the weight of a
>>>>> federal regulation but, close to it. In short , the document says
>>>>> that the right of a cell phone owner to unlock his/her cell phone
>>>>> can not be abridged by carriers.
>>>>> <http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/1201_recommendation.pdf>
>>>>> Sec III, paragraph A, subsection 5:
>>>>> Computer programs in the form of firmware that enable wireless
>>>>> telephone handsets to connect to a wireless telephone communication
>>>>> network, when circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of
>>>>> lawfully connecting to a wireless telephone communication network
>>> GJish;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you have any tips on how to get this information I would
>>>> appreciate it.
>>> If by "get this information," you mean the procedure & code for
>>> unlocking your phone, everything I did to get it done was laid out in my
>>> original post. I'm sorry but the only thing I can recommend is
>>> escalation, ie: 1st to the supe, 2nd to the manager, 3rd to your
>>> Congressional Representative's field office.
>>>
>>> (Fwiw, Rep field offices are pretty damn scrupulous about following up
>>> on a constituent's problem. At least, that's our experience).
>>>
>>>> I'd also like to understand how unlocking my phone poses a threat to
>>>> their network (not being sarcastic, I truly don't understand).
>>> Can't help you there either. I haven't the foggiest. Sorry I can't
>>> help more but, please, post again to let us know how things turn out.
>>> It'll help the next guy.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> -Craig- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Craig, what I was looking for regarding what you did was, I guess more
>> of what you said to get them to give you the code. What Verizon does
>> amounts to buying a car from Dodge and then Dodge saying you can't add
>> any aftermarket parts or accessories. I'm willing to fight a little
>> with them but I'm not that familiar with how much authority the Copy
>> Right Office has.
>>
>> I can tell you I am going to get this phone to work the way it is
>> supposed to. Once I do I will post back so the next guy doesn't drive
>> himself/herself nuts trying to do the same thing.

>
> Gjish;
>
> Any news on unlocking your phone?
>
> -Craig


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