"Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In message <20080712122724.5600fab4.noway@nohow.not>, Dave
> <noway@nohow.not> wrote:
>
>>> Most carriers, including Verizon, have altered their ETF policies and
>>> implemented the practice of prorating the fees based on the length of
>>> time remaining on the contract.
>>
>>If verizon is doing that, it must be a recent development.
>
> Indeed - and about goddanm time, too.
>
> Not only do those rapacious ****ers renew your "contract" but they
> charged you the full ETF even if you cancel ONE DAY early.
>
>>A couple
>>years ago, we cancelled a Verizon 2-year contract at 2 years PLUS ONE
>>DAY, and Verizon wanted to charge us $175 X 2 for an ETF. Bastards.
>>They've lost us for life for that shit.
>
> Same here. In my case, although the "2-year contract" period was over
> by several months, Verizno claimed I had "extended" my contract by
> another year by changing my calling plan (we moved from AZ to CA and
> my wife wanted a local phone number). We did NOT buy any new
> (subsidized) hardware, nor did our rate plan change, so what "costs"
> does Verizon need to recover from us that would justify extending our
> contract? Of course, the droid at the Verizon store never mentioned
> it, and I don't recall signing any sort of agreement to extend my
> contract period by an additional year.
>
> How can it be a real contract if a) you didn't sign the updated
> agreement, and b) there was no "meeting of the minds" when they
> "extended" the term of your commitment because you made some innocuous
> change to your account? Of course, even if this "contract" doesn't
> hold up in court, it would cost you a lot more than $175 to litigate
> it - which is precisely what Verizon is counting on.
>
> **** Verizon - I will never do business with them again EVER.

Last September I increased my family share plan minutes from 700 to 1400,
and in doing this , they reset my contract two years on all five phones of
my plan. Most folks believe that I can fight this, but in the area that I
live, Verizon simply has the best coverage. Aside from their lousy attitude,
they work well for me.