A Dead Horse?

"Claude S. Sutton" <claudesutton@suttonmachine.com> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.12.35.47.620850@suttonmachine. com:

> WIth the data core migration in process

The more I sit here and think about this statement from your
email response, the more I think what we......ah, she
answered.....

Ok, it was my phone....well, 2 phones. She says your issue is
about the data upgrade going on in NC, but not mine. Then, she
asked me who my ISP was! AAAAHHHHKKKKK!!! If she comes back
wanting $60 I'm gonna kill someone!! Now, unable to find out how
I call the internet through BT using the $25 phone data connect
she's gone on hold and is looking for someone...(c;

This phone call's probably going to cost me my data service at
$25/month. She couldn't find any record of my buying data
service, then she found the obscure code (3 letters but I didn't
get which ones) that turned it on. The service works at
$25....I'm not paying more!

She came off hold, stopping the radio ads, but she said nothing
until I "hello??" but she's talking with a supervisor on another
line, I think. They're monitoring my audio, I know...(c;
They're hearing keyclicks from my keyboard...(c;

The waiting game continues..........(yawn)..........
(Hope she doesn't want me to do anything to the phone because I
don't remember where I left it, at the moment. It's within
Bluetooth range because the little Nokia N800 connected to it
when I first booted it, automatically. I know it's within 30' of
me...(c;)

Really cool! The lady I'm talking to was a MARINE operator back
in the 70's! She worked for Maricomm, then Verizon now Alltel.
She retired from Verizon but couldn't stand retirement and came
over to Alltel. Very nice AMERICAN lady. We had quite a chat
after my trouble ticket was filled in.

I think HER phone rebooted, now....she suddenly went dead mic
then it finally dumped me.

darn.....Well, that's what happened. We had quite a chat about
the old days on Marine HF telephone/telex. She wasn't a Morse
operator, just telephone. "I thought all the guys I used to
interconnect on the boats and ships were dead!", she said. "I'm
still quite alive, but the boat uses Iridium, now."....(c;

Larry
--
Iridium data links is like being connected through an old 1200
baud modem...hee hee. No thanks!

On 2007-10-25, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> As with most PCS carriers, Sprint only works in the cities and
> along the two interstate highways in SC.

Right, thus my qualifier "where they have coverage."

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:39:20 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>As with most PCS carriers, Sprint only works in the cities and
>along the two interstate highways in SC.

Did you forget about I-85, I-20, and I-77?

"Claude S. Sutton" <claudesutton@suttonmachine.com> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.21.28.23.895660@suttonmachine. com:

> The cell phone changed all of our lives. I think it is the
most
> production improvement device in our lifetime, including the
laptop.
>

The carphone freed me from being a desk slave, but the Sellphone
(notice my new spelling more closely identifying its point, of
late) freed me from the car, as well as the desk.

On any day business is slack, which is quite often in late 2007,
a scary time, I can do what I want and go where I want and be
"contactable", the lack of which is business suicide.

I agree it's the most important device of the 20th century for
all of us.

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

"Claude S. Sutton" <claudesutton@suttonmachine.com> wrote in
news:pan.2007.10.25.17.14.54.630245@suttonmachine. com:

> What makes it so aggravating is that I know it will soon go down
the
> tube.
>

Maybe not! I got their attention. I've gotten two return phone
calls from techs since my trouble ticket and they told me they
would not just close it until they find a resolution.

You can tell we're not on Verizon....(c; THEY called ME!

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:gcq1i35asrb3ka26b7rn8dqpgquh58l17u@4ax.com:

> Did you forget about I-85, I-20, and I-77?
>
>

Oops...sorry....Guilty-as-charged. I hope Sprint has towers close
enough together to service them, too. US 17 and 17A, the main N-S
routes down the coast in and out of Charlietowne have little
islands of coverage with vast dead zones from Myrtle Beach to
Savannah....might as well be dead. There's nothing on Sprint
between Summerville and Walterboro down 17A now that the VZW/Alltel
in-market roaming is kaput.

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

those fancy new $3200 cellphone brick portables that just
> MADE US DROOL! AMPS worked GREAT!...no more waiting for a
> CHANNEL! And, unlike IMTS, it was CHEEP!
>
> The rest is history......and I'm proud to have been a customer to
> it...(c;
>
> I've been drooling ever since....(c;
>
> Larry

I came into it about that time.

Those early radio car phones never appealed to me because I was flying
everywhere I went and renting cars. Until the cell came about, rental
cars and phones didn't mix.

And air to ground is the pits when you are a single pilot operation. Who
wants the phone ringing when you are shooting a 220 - 1/2 approach
or negotiating with center on weather avoidance.

The cell phone changed all of our lives. I think it is the most
production improvement device in our lifetime, including the laptop.

I will make a call tomorrow and pass on what I know.

CSSJR

--
If we do not wish to lose our freedom, we must learn to tolerate our
neighbor's right to freedom even though he might express that freedom
in a manner we consider to be eccentric.

The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:h7i2i3pf4ldrcor7ksmpfm0gi345rogea3@4ax.com:

> He's never out of touch with the office.
>
>

Ask him to watch his roaming indicator out in the boonies....

Larry
--
You can tell there's extremely
intelligent life in the universe
because they have never called Earth.

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:27:25 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
>news:h7i2i3pf4ldrcor7ksmpfm0gi345rogea3@4ax.com :
>
>> He's never out of touch with the office.
>>
>>
>
>Ask him to watch his roaming indicator out in the boonies....

Then I'd have to spend 30 minutes teaching him what a roaming
indicator was.;-)

The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:s5p3i3d78d9trhb3lnjmh7l3eak80agnq5@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:27:25 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com>
wrote:
>
>>The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
>>news:h7i2i3pf4ldrcor7ksmpfm0gi345rogea3@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> He's never out of touch with the office.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Ask him to watch his roaming indicator out in the boonies....
>
> Then I'd have to spend 30 minutes teaching him what a roaming
> indicator was.;-)
>
>

Oh, one of those guys....sorry...(c;

I have some new news for this thread from this mornings' phone
calls (2) and my call to Motorola.

I have a friend who is a little wheel manager in the trunk radio
division of Motorola. I called him this morning to see if he
could find out why the TWO E815's, the one that failed to the
bootloader and the one I'm carrying now are rebooting during
packet data sessions on Alltel EVDO. He gave me the number of a
guy in the cellphone division who was an engineer and told me to
call him after lunch so he could call him first, opening a path I
couldn't open.

I waited until 1:30 and called him. His knowledge of Moto's
cellphones and firmware is complete as he's right in the middle
of it all and a really nice guy. Simply put, "Your E815, or any
Motorola smartphone, will do a reboot if the DATA system it's
connected to simply disappears or stops answering its calls,
after a fixed timeout to compensate for busy conditions.

According to him, Alltel's dumping me, the phone doesn't get acks
to its packet transmissions, it times out and resets the phone to
recover from the error. Seems very reasonable and confirms my
suspicions.

"They may be shedding the load.", got my undivided attention,
I'll tell you.

I call a call from an American tech at Alltel this morning
wanting me to tell him what was happening, but that was before I
had this information from the Moto engineer about the E815. My
phone is acting NORMALLY for when it's being dumped....period.

They promised me a callback after further research into OUR
problem. He was quite taken aback when he found out I knew OTHER
Alltel users who had similar dumping problems. I'll relay this
new information about the Moto smartphone reboots-to-clear-its-
memory-after-being-dumped when I next talk to them.

Something is amiss. I got dumped 3 times at breakfast, 400 yards
from an Alltel tower that was burning up the receiver with -70dbm
of pilot signal. I could see the tower from Waffle House!


Larry
--
"No, Ma'am. It's NOT my phone and equipment....."