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Old December 1st, 2007, 03:12 PM
The Ghost of General Lee
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:43:49 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
>news:5pu1l3ln1rmicpqa9l0sld1fcqflhsd2ot@4ax.com :
>
>> So? The charges are fully disclosed and again, you are free

>not to
>> use the service. Do I think the SMS fees are outrageous? Yes.

>But
>> you won't see me complaining about them because I never have to

>pay
>> them. I made a choice not to use them.
>>
>>

>
>This would be just peachy fine if the companies weren't so
>interconnected, in this case by the CTIA. They are all in bed
>with each other through this lobby organization.
>
>Anything one of them does, and gets away with, has repercussions
>on all of us, no matter what the system we use. Throttling,
>packet RST injections, data discriminations, all the various
>watchdog organizations fight against in our behalf,
>spreads....only if the users, like you, think you have to take
>whatever screw jobs come at you. This is not true.


It would seem the inverse is also true. When one company sees a way
to put itself ahead of the pack in terms that would benefit the
consumer (like VZW's decision to allow non-VZW CDMA phones on their
system), they'll do it. If the cabal which you call the CTIA had that
much of a strangle hold on its members, we wouldn't have seen that
decision. The limitations to which you refer above all seem like
actions taken to punish/limit people who abuse their systems by being
heavy bandwidth hogs. Again, as long as these limitations are spelled
out, I have no issues with them and you are free not to use their
services. I'm sure you recall a time when there was no cellular
system, so it's not like we couldn't live without it if were
absolutely necessary.

>I, like you, are a paying customer, who has been promised a
>certain level of service, in some instanced falsely called
>"unlimited". This word, thanks to the New York Attorney General,
>has taken on new meaning after Verizon got their fingers burned
>playing in the fire.


Sorry, but I've received all that I was ever promised. And my
contract with Alltel ended 8 days ago, so I'm free to move on if I
don't like the way they're doing business.

>Unlike the spread of packet injections, I can only hope other
>public officials start doing their jobs to protect the public
>from false advertising, sleazy corporate practices and the lies
>companies like Verizon Wireless and Comcast spew out as fact.
>The only thing the users can do is keep the pressure on for
>honest change.


Or leave those companies and sign up with their competitors that don't
behave in such ways. I've seen you gloating about what you can
accomplish through your Alltel connection, so apparently they aren't
restricting you beyond your expectations. I just think it rather
pointless to endlessly whine about the practices of a company with
whom I don't do business.

>If noone says anything, it's all doomed to become exactly what TV
>has become....just another goddamned billboard in your living
>room hawking products. Even you can't be so stupid as to want
>that, for yourself or the rest of us.


What part of "speak with your wallet" do you not understand? I'm sure
you'll agree WRT the companies in question, their #1 motive for
anything they do is money. So, take your money away from them. Hit
the where it really hurts. And in a situation where every company
"does it", like not counting holidays as "free" time, it must not be
that big of an issue with consumers, else some company would be
offering free holidays just to get churned customers who are unhappy
with their current provider.

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