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Old May 6th, 2008, 08:15 PM
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Default Propagation time

In circuit-switched cellular voice connections (I'm mainly interested in the
AT&T network) is the propagation time constant once the connection is
established? In other words, does the trunking involve IP connections?

Admittedly, I never notice changes in voice delays on cellular calls, but
I'm asking here about constant propagation times within 0.1 usec, much
smaller than the human ear can detect.

Thanks.



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Old May 7th, 2008, 07:04 PM
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Default Propagation time

RFguy schrieb:
> [...]
> Admittedly, I never notice changes in voice delays on cellular calls, but
> I'm asking here about constant propagation times within 0.1 usec, much
> smaller than the human ear can detect.


You really mean 0.1micro-seconds? In that case it does not matter what
technology is used. Move one inch towards the tower and your delay
changes by about a micro second.

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Old May 7th, 2008, 07:25 PM
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Default Propagation time

Andreas Wenzel schrieb:
> RFguy schrieb:
>> [...]
>> Admittedly, I never notice changes in voice delays on cellular calls,
>> but I'm asking here about constant propagation times within 0.1 usec,
>> much smaller than the human ear can detect.

>
> You really mean 0.1micro-seconds? In that case it does not matter what
> technology is used. Move one inch towards the tower and your delay
> changes by about a micro second.


Opps, sorry, "slight" miscalculation. 0.1µs equals to about 100ft, not 1".

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Old May 7th, 2008, 09:39 PM
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Default Propagation time

Yes, that's the accuracy I need. The application is very sensitive to
propagation time. The equipment will ping the circuit when the call is set
up in order to measure round-trip delay. What I want to know is, can the
delay change during the call because of IP packet delays? If IP isn't used,
that's what I need to know.



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> Andreas Wenzel schrieb:
>> RFguy schrieb:
>>> [...]
>>> Admittedly, I never notice changes in voice delays on cellular calls,
>>> but I'm asking here about constant propagation times within 0.1 usec,
>>> much smaller than the human ear can detect.

>>
>> You really mean 0.1micro-seconds? In that case it does not matter what
>> technology is used. Move one inch towards the tower and your delay
>> changes by about a micro second.

>
> Opps, sorry, "slight" miscalculation. 0.1µs equals to about 100ft, not 1".
>
> Andreas
>



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