"Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup.email.invalid> wrote in message
news:fsa8r3904dqie5dd9al6af9g7mlea4unli@4ax.com...
> Is it possible to clone a SIM? I'm not talking about the user data, I mean
> the whole thing - so the network thinks it is the original.
>
> Not for any illegal purpose; I just want to keep a spare phone in my
> wife's
> car for emergencies.
>
That is an illegal use, better off keeping an old phone which will work with
911 or credit card use per call. Or better yet, get a cheap per paid phone
for her use.
On 2008-02-14, Michael N. Paris <mparis27@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> "Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup.email.invalid> wrote in message
> news:fsa8r3904dqie5dd9al6af9g7mlea4unli@4ax.com...
>> Is it possible to clone a SIM? I'm not talking about the user data, I mean
>> the whole thing - so the network thinks it is the original.
>>
>> Not for any illegal purpose; I just want to keep a spare phone in my
>> wife's
>> car for emergencies.
>>
> That is an illegal use, better off keeping an old phone which will work with
> 911 or credit card use per call. Or better yet, get a cheap per paid phone
> for her use.
Yes that is 100% illegal and when they catch you, your screwed!
Now, if all you want it for is for emergency calls, any (GSM/WCDMA device)
mobile device will call 999/112 emergency calls for free.
This is a legal requirement (in Europe definately).
|| [...]
|| Dialing 112 forces the phone to make the call on any
|| network possible. However, some GSM networks (e.g. in
|| Belgium, Spain, UK, Liechtenstein, Austria) are reported
|| to connect emergency calls only from phones with a valid
|| account on their network, e.g. customers and roamers only.
|| [...] Latin American GSM networks typically do not allow
|| 112 calls without a SIM. [...]
The text says 112 but technically there is no difference to 911.
It _does_ work in the US (the FCC has mandated it) with
the cautionary reminder that the phone, being a radio, has
to be within range of a compatable cellular tower.
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On 2008-02-15, Andreas Wenzel <awspambucket@gmx.de> wrote:
> blue box thief schrieb:
>> [...]
>> This is a legal requirement (in Europe definately).
>
> At least not in the UK - have tried it. The Wikipedia also speaks of
> many other countries not supporting emergency calls without a SIM:
Hi Andreas,
Hmm, I stand corrected then. Thanks. I did assume all countries had to do it.
I know IE does.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergen...ile_telephones
>
>|| [...]
>|| Dialing 112 forces the phone to make the call on any
>|| network possible. However, some GSM networks (e.g. in
>|| Belgium, Spain, UK, Liechtenstein, Austria) are reported
>|| to connect emergency calls only from phones with a valid
>|| account on their network, e.g. customers and roamers only.
>|| [...] Latin American GSM networks typically do not allow
>|| 112 calls without a SIM. [...]
>
> The text says 112 but technically there is no difference to 911.
yes essentially they are correct, but i would like to try
with 911 also :) maybe the next upgrade someone does they could try it.. :)
"Nigel Molesworth" <reply@thegroup.email.invalid> wrote
> I don't see how it can be, I'm not using both at once. The plan was to
> duplicate her PAYG SIM in case she left her phone behind.
Doesn't matter. You are not allowed to do this,
as simple as that. Neither cloning a sim card
nor using it in a phone.
Just on a side note, you wouldn't manage to
clone the card anyway - from that prospective,
quite a theoretical debate.
> Any thoughts, with these clarifications?
Buy a prepaid phone for emergency use or ask
your network operator for a dual sim, partner
card or however it is called there. I have a
Vodafone Dual Sim which allows me to use 2
identical cards but only one at the same time.
This is the only legal way to do it.
Clone a SIM?
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