Re: Apple To Allow Third Party Apps ON iPhone

"Ness_net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote in
news:SICdnZxLE5Fh1YTanZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@giganews.com :

> A couple of words / terms.
>
> YES "brainwashed" - fanatic fanboy is the term.
> Gulping down the Apple Kool-Aid.
> No facts, just fantasy.
>
> And - HYPE is the word you were looking for.
>
>
>
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns99CECAA864EC3noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>
>>
>> Where do you guys get so brainwashed? Is there some subliminal
>> background program in iPods? I must agree, wholeheartedly that
>> Apple excells in MARKETING, if nothing else.
>
>
>

Yep- agree with you both. They create hype for second rate products. What
we are seeing here is something akin to a teenage boy with Farrah Fawcett
posters on his wall (I think you can both relate to the analogy).

Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

> Nokia is a market leader in wireless phones and they have been for years.
> They have a huge developer community. I don't recall whether they're still
> the #1 largest cellphone manufacturer in the world, but if not, they're
> at least #2 or #3.

as was IBM in the 1970's, the Apple ][ wiped them out. So was
Compugraphic in the 1980's, the Mac wiped them out. So was Diamond Rio,
but the iPod wiped them out.

The iPhone is far too strong for a weak company like Nokia, they simply
don't have the foundation to compete against a big player like Apple.

You'll see what I'm saying in about 5 years. Nokia among others will be
sold off for pennies on the dollar... The iPhone is advanced for them to
catch up at this point. Apple knows HARDWARE & SOFTWARE better than
anyone on the planet.

Apple is just too strong.

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> You're absolutely right. Nokia, one of the largest telecom
> companies on the planet with 109,871 employees, worldwide, and a
> mere 62.77 Billion in revenue can barely compare with such giants
> of computing as Apple with 19.3 Billion in revenue and 17,787
> employees.

yes, and Apple has 1/5th the employees, about 1/2 the revenue, (30B) but
worth 30% more. That's the value equation that Nokia can't match no
matter what they do.

I've seen all this before... and Nokia is one of the weaker firms I've
encountered once Apple enters their market.

> Nokia can't possibly have the talent on board to design a
> internet device to go along with their telecommunications
> equipment the internet runs on....right?

Correct. It's baffling why with "all those employees" they can't manage
to make a full web browser work on a phone. Apple did it with flying
colors, but all other smartphones are still 10 years behind Apple on the
internet. Why? what is the hold up?

> Where do you guys get so brainwashed? Is there some subliminal
> background program in iPods? I must agree, wholeheartedly that
> Apple excells in MARKETING, if nothing else.

I think it has a lot to do with QUALITY. Nokia and others never had that
as a goal, they just would shove out another model and never "think"
about design, how it worked, how long the battery lasted, etc. The Cell
Industry was never competitive like the PC industry so they are all weak
players.

So it puts them in a very weak position since they never have developed
the skills to compete with a company of the caliber of Apple.

Do you really think Cell Companies can match 30 years of development
such as these... Nope! It will never happen. Apple has already won...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Animation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Image
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Graphics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Data

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In article
<colalovesmacs-549658.19532019102007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:

> Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>
> > Nokia is a market leader in wireless phones and they have been for years.
> > They have a huge developer community. I don't recall whether they're still
> > the #1 largest cellphone manufacturer in the world, but if not, they're
> > at least #2 or #3.
>
> as was IBM in the 1970's, the Apple ][ wiped them out.

You're dreaming again. IBM is doing just fine.

Bob Campbell

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> You must not have taken too close a look at your MASTERCARD BILL
> after being ripped off. You paid a LOT more than $68 for 8GB
> locked away in that little box, bud....hee hee.

I paid $598 for 2 4GBs, with full iPod, Internet, Mail and the Apple
ability to resell that same devices for $200 each in 2 years... that's
what you and others don't understand.

when you buy an Apple device, you get far better resale value because of
the quality involved. It's similar to buying fine cars if you think
about it.

if you buy no name brands like Nokia, you get screwed since you don't
have a sellable product in the 2 year time frame. you lose your
investment. but when you go with an Apple product, you get to use it and
get about half back in 2-3 years. no other company can provide that.

yes, you can accuse Apple users of being smart all you want, but dollar
for dollar we know how best to spend money. the iPhone is the "smart"
persons phone/ipod/mail/internet communicator.

no other smartphone even comes close to the same value.

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"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-57CF82.20222519102007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net...
>
> I paid $598 for 2 4GBs, with full iPod, Internet, Mail and the Apple
> ability to resell that same devices for $200 each in 2 years... that's
> what you and others don't understand.

Oxford, you are a ****ing idiot. When Apple releases a 3G version, the
units you have will be basically worthless. You are a fool to think they have
any resale value. Minimal, at best.
>
> when you buy an Apple device, you get far better resale value because of
> the quality involved. It's similar to buying fine cars if you think
> about it.

Again, a foolish, deluded idiot. Drunk on the tainted Kool Aid...

>
> if you buy no name brands like Nokia, you get screwed since you don't
> have a sellable product in the 2 year time frame. you lose your
> investment. but when you go with an Apple product, you get to use it and
> get about half back in 2-3 years. no other company can provide that.

What a moron.
>
> yes, you can accuse Apple users of being smart all you want, but dollar
> for dollar we know how best to spend money. the iPhone is the "smart"
> persons phone/ipod/mail/internet communicator.
>
> no other smartphone even comes close to the same value.
>
> -

Yes, but the opposite. Many actually exceed it - I agree, the iPhone isn't even close.
It's quite a bit inferior. Any unit with EVDO for instance.

Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
0B4736.20060719102007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> You're absolutely right. Nokia, one of the largest telecom
>> companies on the planet with 109,871 employees, worldwide, and a
>> mere 62.77 Billion in revenue can barely compare with such giants
>> of computing as Apple with 19.3 Billion in revenue and 17,787
>> employees.
>
> yes, and Apple has 1/5th the employees, about 1/2 the revenue, (30B) but
> worth 30% more. That's the value equation that Nokia can't match no
> matter what they do.


Not according to how you measure a company's value. At lewast now how you
were doing it last night.

Typical of the stupid- can't keep their own stories and facts straight.

Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

> > as was IBM in the 1970's, the Apple ][ wiped them out.
>
> You're dreaming again. IBM is doing just fine.
>
> Bob Campbell

sure, but its a dwarf of its former size / power... apple will be more
valuable than IBM in less than 6 days :)

In article
<colalovesmacs-AF06CA.20443619102007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> wrote:

> Bob Campbell <bob@bob.bob> wrote:
>
> > > as was IBM in the 1970's, the Apple ][ wiped them out.
> >
> > You're dreaming again. IBM is doing just fine.
> >
> > Bob Campbell
>
> sure, but its a dwarf of its former size / power... apple will be more
> valuable than IBM in less than 6 days :)

Only in terms of market cap. Apple is *way* overvalued. If today's
crash continues next week, look for Apple to drop to more realistic
levels.

Meanwhile, IBM has $100 billion in revenue this year, Apple has what,
$25 billion?

There is no comparison.

Bob Campbell

In article <dBeSi.21980$UN.14491@newsfe24.lga>,
"IMHO IIRC" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:

> First you said the Apple][ wiped out IBM.
> Then you said IBM is a dwarf of its former size / power.
> Finally you said Apple will be more valuable than IBM in less than 6 days.
>
> So Apple, after wiping out IBM in the 1970s, is to still not be more
> valuable than IBM. lol

Well, that's Oxford! Constantly back pedaling. Constantly
re-adjusting his claims in the face of facts. Constantly drinking RDF
infected kool aide.

Constantly an embarrassment to the Mac community.

Bob Campbell