Yep... for starters, they'd call it the vPhone. ;-)
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"DennisC" <dennis_crowley@charter.net> wrote in message
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> On Dec 16, 3:42 pm, "LHA" <nob...@nobody1.com1> wrote:
>> "Mark Thompson" <ma...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:markt-C0CE51.16341214122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
>>
>> > In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
>>
>> As long as I have to use the Stinkular network, you can keep your Iphone.
>
> If Verizon had the iPhone they would cripple it so much it wouldn't be
> the success it is.
>
> Dennis
DennisC <dennis_crowley@charter.net> wrote in
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> On Dec 16, 3:42 pm, "LHA" <nob...@nobody1.com1> wrote:
>> "Mark Thompson" <ma...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:markt-C0CE51.16341214122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
>>
>> > In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed
>> > past
>>
>> As long as I have to use the Stinkular network, you can keep your
>> Iphone.
>
> If Verizon had the iPhone they would cripple it so much it wouldn't be
> the success it is.
>
> Dennis
How much more crippled could it be and still be worth buying?
Mark Thompson wrote:
> In its first full quarter of sales, the iPhone has already climbed past
> Microsoft¹s entire lineup of Windows Mobile smartphones in North
> America, according to figures compiled by Canalys and published by
> Symbian.
> Another thing is that GSM adoption is expanding in North, Central and
> South America which will continue the success of the GSM format Apple
> choose to support over CDMA. Verizon is begining to test converting
> their phone system to GSM as already noted.
Actually, CDMA continues to gain market share at the expense of GSM
worldwide, and in North America has the largest subscriber base (which
is why Apple went to Verizon with the iPhone first).
The reason Verizon passed AT&T in the number of subscribers is because
of their superior network. See the latest Consumer Reports for details.
This is the reason that Apple approached Verizon first, they didn't care
about GSM versus CDMA, they wanted the premium carrier for their new
product.
It's all moot, as the entire world is moving to CDMA, albeit a different
version than the one used by Verizon, Sprint, and the carriers in Korea.
In article <4773bf0b$0$84195$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, SMS ???? ? wrote:
> Actually, CDMA continues to gain market share at the expense of GSM
> worldwide, and in North America has the largest subscriber base (which
> is why Apple went to Verizon with the iPhone first).
Actually thats not quite true. If it is, why is Verizon going to go
with LTE and not Qualcomm's 4G standard? Also Qualcomm is a greedy
company and charges high licensing fees. GSM is an open standard
whereas CDMA is propietary.
Apple went to Verizon at first as there IS MORE U.S CDMA
customers than GSM customers. APPLE wanted to lock down its Iphone
which is very common on CDMA systems. Verizon, the largest of the CDMA
providers didn't want to play ball, therefore, Apple went to the next
largest market penetration. That would be AT&T/Cingular
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In article <Jtq9sq.nrt@pinkrose.net.dhis.org>, B'ichela
<mdalene@pinkrose.dhis.org> wrote:
> Actually thats not quite true. If it is, why is Verizon going to go
> with LTE and not Qualcomm's 4G standard? Also Qualcomm is a greedy
> company and charges high licensing fees. GSM is an open standard
> whereas CDMA is propietary.
> Apple went to Verizon at first as there IS MORE U.S CDMA
> customers than GSM customers. APPLE wanted to lock down its Iphone
> which is very common on CDMA systems. Verizon, the largest of the CDMA
> providers didn't want to play ball, therefore, Apple went to the next
> largest market penetration. That would be AT&T/Cingular
The more likely scenario is that Verizon wanted to cripple the phone
like they do all of their others, and Apple told them to get lost.
"Mr. Strat" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Jtq9sq.nrt@pinkrose.net.dhis.org>, B'ichela
> <mdalene@pinkrose.dhis.org> wrote:
>
>> Actually thats not quite true. If it is, why is Verizon going to go
>> with LTE and not Qualcomm's 4G standard? Also Qualcomm is a greedy
>> company and charges high licensing fees. GSM is an open standard
>> whereas CDMA is propietary.
>> Apple went to Verizon at first as there IS MORE U.S CDMA
>> customers than GSM customers. APPLE wanted to lock down its Iphone
>> which is very common on CDMA systems. Verizon, the largest of the CDMA
>> providers didn't want to play ball, therefore, Apple went to the next
>> largest market penetration. That would be AT&T/Cingular
>
> The more likely scenario is that Verizon wanted to cripple the phone
> like they do all of their others, and Apple told them to get lost.
Mr. Strat wrote:
> In article <Sn%cj.35034$Pv2.34038@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> , Kevin
> Weaver <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> No. Verizon turned Apple down.
>
> Regardless, Verizon still sucks due to their predatory business
> practices.
While their business practices may suck, and I've criticized them
repeatedly for some of the crap they pull, you of course understand how
they've now managed to pass AT&T in retail subscribers.
Every survey of users as to what matters most to them gives the same
result--coverage. Handset selection is usually somewhere near the bottom
of the survey results.
If you look at Consumer Reports, JD Power, or any other independent
survey, the results are always the same, and always overwhelming when it
comes to coverage comparisons. In Consumer Reports it's listed as "No
Service." In 17 out of 20 markets, Verizon had the best score for "No
Service," while in the other three they were tied with Alltel.
Everyone knew the iPhone was a success, but wow!
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