Sprint's Touch vs Verizon's Touch

Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.

I found out Verizon's Touch does not have Bluetooth PAN and it does not
allow you to assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS.

The Bluetooth PAN is neat if you have a laptop with Bluetooth and want to
use "Phone as Modem" without a cable.

The "assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS" is neat if you buy a Bluetooth GPS
and want to use it to see satellite views of where you are at.

The guy in the Verizon add. The reason I keep asking you "If you can hear
me now" is because I don't want to hear you complain about all the bluetooth
functionality we have removed from our phones.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:FeWdnVxf8uKycY3VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
>
> I found out Verizon's Touch does not have Bluetooth PAN and it does not
> allow you to assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS.
>
> The Bluetooth PAN is neat if you have a laptop with Bluetooth and want to
> use "Phone as Modem" without a cable.
>
> The "assign a comport to a Bluetooth GPS" is neat if you buy a Bluetooth
GPS
> and want to use it to see satellite views of where you are at.
>
> The guy in the Verizon add. The reason I keep asking you "If you can hear
> me now" is because I don't want to hear you complain about all the
bluetooth
> functionality we have removed from our phones.

To make double sure on the part about the BT GPS I took mine down there and
asked if I could try something.

To make a long story short, it looks like the only thing the Verizon "Touch"
is missing is the BT PAN. Verizon does not use "Internet Sharing" they use
"Modem Link" and you have to link with a cable. Screw that.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:FeWdnVxf8uKycY3VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.

Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
cap on their data network I found something else today.

Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
they added some rules to follow at the same time.
http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing

"Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"

With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon Wireless
has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
$45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data network
access on par with Sprint and AT&T.

The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access to
the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet email
providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.

The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This new
data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.

========== My comments below ==========

Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
that later.

Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.

Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.

Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
"Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed to
drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
month more for unlimited data.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
news:Pbudnd6EQvHpsrHVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> news:FeWdnVxf8uKycY3VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
>
> Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
> cap on their data network I found something else today.
>
> Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
> they added some rules to follow at the same time.
> http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
>
> "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
>
> With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon
Wireless
> has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
> $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data
network
> access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
>
> The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
> impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access
to
> the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet
email
> providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
>
> The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This
new
> data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
> Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
>
> ========== My comments below ==========
>
> Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
> that later.
>
> Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
>
> Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.
>
> Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
> "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed
to
> drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
> month more for unlimited data.

After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data to
the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to a
laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.

That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.

Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program that
you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.

No thanks.

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:

>
>"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
>news:Pbudnd6EQvHpsrHVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.co m...
>>
>> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
>> news:FeWdnVxf8uKycY3VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
>>
>> Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a 5G
>> cap on their data network I found something else today.
>>
>> Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint and
>> they added some rules to follow at the same time.
>> http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
>>
>> "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
>>
>> With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon
>Wireless
>> has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan from
>> $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data
>network
>> access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
>>
>> The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
>> impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited access
>to
>> the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet
>email
>> providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
>>
>> The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans. This
>new
>> data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
>> Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
>>
>> ========== My comments below ==========
>>
>> Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More on
>> that later.
>>
>> Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
>>
>> Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match Sprint.
>>
>> Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
>> "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was allowed
>to
>> drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25 a
>> month more for unlimited data.
>
>After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data to
>the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to a
>laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.
>
>That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
>wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.
>
>Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program that
>you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.
>
>No thanks.

Roger,

I agree. One of the reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their
data plans. On my Palm 755P, same as your Mogul, unlimited data to the
phone & PAM is $39.95 AND no cap. For what Verizon is charging on
Sprint you could have Vision on your phone AND a pay for data service
on an AirCard.

BTW, Palms have the same issue with PAM on any carrier. They do not
appear to the PC as a network card like an AirCard or a Novatel does.
You have to install Sprint Connection Manager to get any better than
dial-up transfer speeds (the basic Palm software installs a 755 as a
modem, so you CAN use DUN, but as I said, DUN has speed limitations)
which makes it a pain to use the Palm on a foreign machine. On the
other hand, you have to install drivers for an AirCard, so I guess
that is not that big of an issue.

One other sidebar - if you do use Sprint Connection Manager, DO NOT
try and do an upgrade on a new version!! I've tried it twice and ended
up with an unworkable mess. Better to uninstall the old version and
then install the new one. I wish that Sprint would get another vendor
to do their CM software - their present one is kinda lame.

Regards,
Bill Bowen
Sacramento, CA

"William H. Bowen" <wh_bowen@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:efc034dnp5b1pk83d4tldn4iuieagqbk61@4ax.com...
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:Pbudnd6EQvHpsrHVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.co m...
> >>
> >> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> >> news:FeWdnVxf8uKycY3VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >> > Out of curiosity, I took a look at the "Touch" that Verizon sales.
> >>
> >> Besides Verizon striping their "Touch" of "Bluetooth PAN" and putting a
5G
> >> cap on their data network I found something else today.
> >>
> >> Verizon lowered the price of the "Data Plan" to *try* and match Sprint
and
> >> they added some rules to follow at the same time.
> >> http://www.xv6900.com/Verizon-Drops-Data-Plan-Pricing
> >>
> >> "Verizon Lowers Data Plan Pricing"
> >>
> >> With the release of the XV6900 just a few short days away, Verizon
> >Wireless
> >> has announced that it has lowered pricing for the unlimited data plan
from
> >> $45.00/month to $29.99/month. This puts pricing for high speed data
> >network
> >> access on par with Sprint and AT&T.
> >>
> >> The $29.99/month plan does not support Exchange, which should primarily
> >> impact enterprise users. The new data plan will provide unlimited
access
> >to
> >> the web and up to 10 personal e-mail accounts, including free Internet
> >email
> >> providers such as Windows Live, AOL and Yahoo.
> >>
> >> The $29.99 data plan is only available with qualifying voice plans.
This
> >new
> >> data plan is currently available on the Verizon Wireless SMT5800; the
> >> Verizon Wireless XV6800 and the MOTO Q9m.
> >>
> >> ========== My comments below ==========
> >>
> >> Verizon should have dropped the price to $24.99 to match Sprint. More
on
> >> that later.
> >>
> >> Verizon should let their users have "Bluetooth PAN" to match Sprint.
> >>
> >> Verizon should remove their 5G cap on their data network to match
Sprint.
> >>
> >> Now why the $24.99 instead of the $29.99 mentioned above? When I added
> >> "Unlimited data" to my Mogul it was for $39.xx a month but I was
allowed
> >to
> >> drop the Vision service shortly after that meaning I'm only paying $25
a
> >> month more for unlimited data.
> >
> >After some double checking I found out the $29.99 is for unlimited data
to
> >the phone itself. If you want to use your phone for broadband access to
a
> >laptop with a 5G cap then you add another $59.99.
> >
> >That means I'd be paying $50 more a month if I were on Verizon and I
> >wouldn't even have Bluetooth PAN with a Verizon phone.
> >
> >Not only would I *not* have Bluetooth PAN but I'd have to use a program
that
> >you download from http://vzam.net if I wanted intenet on my laptop.
> >
> >No thanks.
>
> Roger,
>
> I agree. One of the reasons I stay with Sprint is because of their
> data plans. On my Palm 755P, same as your Mogul, unlimited data to the
> phone & PAM is $39.95 AND no cap. For what Verizon is charging on
> Sprint you could have Vision on your phone AND a pay for data service
> on an AirCard.
>
> BTW, Palms have the same issue with PAM on any carrier. They do not
> appear to the PC as a network card like an AirCard or a Novatel does.
> You have to install Sprint Connection Manager to get any better than
> dial-up transfer speeds (the basic Palm software installs a 755 as a
> modem, so you CAN use DUN, but as I said, DUN has speed limitations)
> which makes it a pain to use the Palm on a foreign machine. On the
> other hand, you have to install drivers for an AirCard, so I guess
> that is not that big of an issue.
>
> One other sidebar - if you do use Sprint Connection Manager, DO NOT
> try and do an upgrade on a new version!! I've tried it twice and ended
> up with an unworkable mess. Better to uninstall the old version and
> then install the new one. I wish that Sprint would get another vendor
> to do their CM software - their present one is kinda lame.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Bowen
> Sacramento, CA

Thanks for the info and now that you mention it, I remember I had to use
connection software with a phone I had years ago and an air card I had last
year.

BTW I just heard some bad news today. Sprint is going to be like AT&T and
Verizon with a 5G cap.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/0...d-data-at-5gb/