Unofficial Sprint Mogul ROM 3.49, WM 6.1, threaded SMS

http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162980

If you don't have a RAR extractor, try open source:

http://peazip.sourceforge.net/

"Bob Wang" <bobby_wang@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162980
>
> If you don't have a RAR extractor, try open source:
>
> http://peazip.sourceforge.net/

Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?

The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.

TIA

Roger:

Sorry, just tried and got "The page contains errors and cannot be
displayed."

Bob

>>>
"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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"Bob Wang" <bobby_wang@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162980
>
> If you don't have a RAR extractor, try open source:
>
> http://peazip.sourceforge.net/

Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?

The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.

TIA

Thanks for the info and Bummer. That is what my current version of the ROM
for my Mogul does.

I found a way around it but it involves using http://www.google.com/gwt/n
and then saving the URL it comes up with.



"Bob Wang" <bobby_wang@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Roger:
>
> Sorry, just tried and got "The page contains errors and cannot be
> displayed."
>
> Bob
>
>>>>
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> news:fvOdna2fU8x-37fVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> "Bob Wang" <bobby_wang@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:q4ednfYxgtlue7XVnZ2dnUVZ_rXinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=162980
>>
>> If you don't have a RAR extractor, try open source:
>>
>> http://peazip.sourceforge.net/
>
> Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
>
> The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.
>
> TIA
>

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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> Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
>
> The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.

This issue you're having still pisses me off because I haven't figured it
out! ;-) My HTC Wizard, when running either WM5 or 6 has no problem with
the m.tvguide site, and I can't imagine how the browser on the Mogul (IE
mobile) should be different than any other Windows Mobile device.

Just a few questions to hopefully try and sort this out:

1. Does the page display properly if you hit it from WiFi? (This would make
Sprint the culprit if it works from WiFi but not from a Sprint data
connection)

2. What user agent does the phone report? I assume from your prior postings
you don't need any help figuring it out, but if you need a quickie way to
check it, go here: http://showip.net/check_user_agent.php and it'll be
displayed. (This is probably not a very useful troubleshooting avenue in
this case- I just tried m.tvguide.com from my desktop and the mobile version
loads fine- I was thinking perhaps tvguide.com didn't allow access from a
desktop browser and was confused by the Mogul's UA, but since it displays
fine in IE 7, it doesn't seem to care what accesses it. I was even able to
log in on the desktop with my mobile phone number to get my area-customized
listings!) But, just in case, the UA on my Wizard is: "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.9)." Is the Mogul's
different?

It's the little annoyances like these that really get under my skin!
Hopefully, we'll get this fixed one way or the other! ;-)

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> news:fvOdna2fU8x-37fVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> > Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
> >
> > The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.
>
> This issue you're having still pisses me off because I haven't figured it
> out! ;-) My HTC Wizard, when running either WM5 or 6 has no problem with
> the m.tvguide site, and I can't imagine how the browser on the Mogul (IE
> mobile) should be different than any other Windows Mobile device.

The "HTC Wizard." is the only PPC I've seen with real "Stereo" speakers but
I'm sure there are more.


> Just a few questions to hopefully try and sort this out:
>
> 1. Does the page display properly if you hit it from WiFi? (This would
make
> Sprint the culprit if it works from WiFi but not from a Sprint data
> connection)

It doesn't matter how the connection is made it still comes up with the
error ""The page contains errors and cannot be displayed."


> 2. What user agent does the phone report? I assume from your prior
postings
> you don't need any help figuring it out, but if you need a quickie way to
> check it, go here: http://showip.net/check_user_agent.php and it'll be
> displayed. (This is probably not a very useful troubleshooting avenue in
> this case- I just tried m.tvguide.com from my desktop and the mobile
version
> loads fine- I was thinking perhaps tvguide.com didn't allow access from a
> desktop browser and was confused by the Mogul's UA, but since it displays
> fine in IE 7, it doesn't seem to care what accesses it. I was even able
to
> log in on the desktop with my mobile phone number to get my
area-customized
> listings!) But, just in case, the UA on my Wizard is: "Mozilla/4.0
> (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.9)." Is the Mogul's
> different?

The Mogul with the current ROM is:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.6) Sprint:PPC6800
But, I've seen a "Touch" with "IEMobile 7.6" that works with m.tvguide.com
so there is something else going on here.

But, I've also seen a WM6 device that comes up with IEMobile 7.7 and it
doesn't work with m.tvguide.com either.


> It's the little annoyances like these that really get under my skin!
> Hopefully, we'll get this fixed one way or the other! ;-)

I would hope so but until then I know a way around the problem.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:01:47 -0600, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

>"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
>news:fvOdna2fU8x-37fVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews.com...

>> Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
>>
>> The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.

>This issue you're having still pisses me off because I haven't figured it
>out! ;-) My HTC Wizard, when running either WM5 or 6 has no problem with
>the m.tvguide site, and I can't imagine how the browser on the Mogul (IE
>mobile) should be different than any other Windows Mobile device.

WTF don't you use a different browser? Is the mogul not capable of running
user installed applications?

"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:01:47 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
> >"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> >news:fvOdna2fU8x-37fVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> >> Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
> >>
> >> The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.
>
> >This issue you're having still pisses me off because I haven't figured it
> >out! ;-) My HTC Wizard, when running either WM5 or 6 has no problem
with
> >the m.tvguide site, and I can't imagine how the browser on the Mogul (IE
> >mobile) should be different than any other Windows Mobile device.
>
> WTF don't you use a different browser? Is the mogul not capable of
running
> user installed applications?

We had this discussion on the "tvguide on your Sprint Mogul" thread and I'll
repeat myself.

1. I can get "m.tvguide.com" to work if I go to the following site first:
http://www.google.com/gwt/n

2. There is no other browser for WM6 that can do FTP and HTTP from what
I've seen.

3. I'm still waiting for skyfire: (from a post on the "tvguide on your
Sprint Mogul" thread)
BTW after seeing page 99 of the May 2008 LAPTOP magazine I think I'll try
the browser at:
http://www.skyfire.com/

BTW I have heard the browser that comes with WM6.1 will have new features so
I'm willing to take a look at it.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 15:32:24 -0600, Roger 2008 <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:

>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
>news:slrng2mgus.ve.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 11:01:47 -0600, Todd Allcock
><elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
>> >news:fvOdna2fU8x-37fVnZ2dnUVZ_hGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> >> Is there anyway you can tell me if it works with http://m.tvguide.com ?
>> >>
>> >> The last "official" ROM for the Mogul does not.
>>
>> >This issue you're having still pisses me off because I haven't figured it
>> >out! ;-) My HTC Wizard, when running either WM5 or 6 has no problem
>with
>> >the m.tvguide site, and I can't imagine how the browser on the Mogul (IE
>> >mobile) should be different than any other Windows Mobile device.
>>
>> WTF don't you use a different browser? Is the mogul not capable of
>running
>> user installed applications?

>We had this discussion on the "tvguide on your Sprint Mogul" thread and I'll
>repeat myself.

>1. I can get "m.tvguide.com" to work if I go to the following site first:
> http://www.google.com/gwt/n

>2. There is no other browser for WM6 that can do FTP and HTTP from what
>I've seen.


irrelevent. 1) You don't need FTP to read tv guide. 2) they all do HTTP,
it is the basic protocol for retrieving web pages.


Do continue to have the insane notion that one can't have multiple browsers
installed at the same time?

At 14 May 2008 15:32:24 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:

> We had this discussion on the "tvguide on your Sprint Mogul" thread and
I'll
> repeat myself.
>
> 1. I can get "m.tvguide.com" to work if I go to the following site first:
> http://www.google.com/gwt/n
>
> 2. There is no other browser for WM6 that can do FTP and HTTP from what
> I've seen.


Netfront does, I believe, but it's expensive ($30) sluggish, and overkill
for rendering a WAP site like TV Guide.

> 3. I'm still waiting for skyfire: (from a post on the "tvguide on your
> Sprint Mogul" thread)
> BTW after seeing page 99 of the May 2008 LAPTOP magazine I think I'll try
> the browser at:
> http://www.skyfire.com/


I just got my invitation to the beta last week. It's not a "real" browser,
IMO. It's a viewer application that works off a special server maintained
by Skyfire. (Much like Opera does for Opera Mini.) The rendering is done
at Skyfire HQ and the "image" of what they render is sent to your phone.
This means everything you do on the browser <insert ominous music here>
funnels through their servers. For the less "Big Brother" sensitive (like
myself) it also means when the server is down, Skyfire won't run. It's
also painfully slow, but is the only WinMo browser I've tried that plays TV
from www.hulu.com, so I can grab a "Man From UNCLE" fix (albeit at 2fps!)
from just about anywhere! ;-)

> BTW I have heard the browser that comes with WM6.1 will have new
> features so I'm willing to take a look at it.


New features, yes (zoom in/zoom out most notably), but the same old
rendering engine under the hood, from what I've read. A real overhaul is
not planned until WM7, when the browser will be replaced with an IE6-
compatible one.