On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:26:11 GMT, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>On 2008-06-03, David G Imber <imber@maniform.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:42:09 GMT, Dennis Ferguson
>><dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>>What I'd like to know is what the grey and white thing with the
>>>red power button is. It appears in both videos, and I've got a
>>>feeling you are going to have some difficulty reproducing this
>>>experiment if you haven't got one yourself.
>>
>> I don't see such a thing in the video you posted. Where is it?
>
>In my video it is the "phone" that the woman puts on the table. In
>your video it is the "phone" on the lower left when the camera is
>focused on the popcorn.
>
>Whatever that is, the same device is used in both videos and it
>really doesn't look much like a phone.
That's the remote control for the Magnetron hidden under the table.
(kidding)
David G. Imber <imber@maniform.com> wrote in
news:ej0b4495hrev7kdnlkp6105hng4ilui2sj@4ax.com:
> On the face of it, this seems to add weight to the idea that
> cell phones are potentially hazardous to health, but I have never
> found those arguments convincing.
>
>
What's really hilarious is to watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVsH88jVNmU
100,000 watts of high microwave energy directed to you and it's 100%
safe.....
The age of passive resistance and legal protest is OVER!
On 03 Jun 2008 21:33:23 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>In news:a7cb445escqetqud8qol977tiv0v0sdu8n@4ax.com David G. Imber
><imber@maniform.com> wrote:
>
>> I will believe that it's a hoax when there is evidence
>> from which to draw that conclusion.
>
>Rather than believing any magic trick they're shown, most people take a
>different approach and assume it's a trick until offered proof that it's
>real.
You're not getting me, which is why I was arguing with your
initial responses (respectfully). I ASSUMED it was a trick. I'm the
most reason-based person you'll meet. But tricks have solutions. I
haven't seen one from you or anyone else. Therefore I can't call it a
trick until I see evidence of how it came to be. Right now I have a
video which, on the surface, gives me nothing (or at least I can spot
nothing) like evidence. I'm left with an assumption that it's a trick,
but an assumption with no inherent truth value.
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:26:11 GMT, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>Whatever that is, the same device is used in both videos and it
>really doesn't look much like a phone.
Nah, that's a phone. I mean, what else would it be? It would
only be a functional part of the trick if it were a directional
microwave transmitter, but it's surely not.
I'll tell you something else about my video, before anyone
brings it up. The table the participants are sitting at is called a
"kotatsu" and it does indeed have a heating element beneath it. But
that element is at the center of the table, and the surface of the
table doesn't become even warm. It's a common furnishing in Japanese
apartments.
In news:17nb445udccsklaiolgipqtldc5esu0rfs@4ax.com David G. Imber
<imber@maniform.com> wrote:
> Right now I have a video which, on the surface, gives me nothing (or
> at least I can spot nothing) like evidence.
How do you expect to find "evidence" in a low-resolution video that
shows you only what the maker wants you to see?
> I'm left with an assumption that it's a trick, but an assumption with
> no inherent truth value.
How much water is in a kernel of corn? How much energy is required to
raise that quantity of water from room temperature to boiling in the
period of time shown? How much energy can you get out of 4 conventional
cell phones? How much of that energy can you transfer from those cell
phones into a kernel of corn in the period of time shown in the physical
configuation shown?
On 04 Jun 2008 14:06:00 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
>In news:17nb445udccsklaiolgipqtldc5esu0rfs@4ax.com David G. Imber
><imber@maniform.com> wrote:
>
>> Right now I have a video which, on the surface, gives me nothing (or
>> at least I can spot nothing) like evidence.
>
>How do you expect to find "evidence" in a low-resolution video that
>shows you only what the maker wants you to see?
I do not. That is what prompted my request for an explanation.
Unfortunately, no one has offered any.
>> I'm left with an assumption that it's a trick, but an assumption with
>> no inherent truth value.
>
>How much water is in a kernel of corn? How much energy is required to
>raise that quantity of water from room temperature to boiling in the
>period of time shown? How much energy can you get out of 4 conventional
>cell phones? How much of that energy
[snip]
I am under no illusion that you can pop corn with a cell
phone. Nor do I believe that Mr. Mentalist can bend spoons w/his
brain. But when I see them bend I simply want to know how it's done.
That story is generally far more interesting and amusing than "magic".
I have not yet heard such a story in this case, nor any story that
makes sense. "It's a hoax" does nothing for me.
In news:1cmd44h7edr5sactlcuo6ndmdjmaraji12@4ax.com David G. Imber
<imber@maniform.com> wrote:
> I am under no illusion that you can pop corn with a cell
> phone. Nor do I believe that Mr. Mentalist can bend spoons w/his
> brain. But when I see them bend I simply want to know how it's done.
> That story is generally far more interesting and amusing than "magic".
> I have not yet heard such a story in this case, nor any story that
> makes sense. "It's a hoax" does nothing for me.
As I sad before, when the only "evidence" you're given is a
low-resolution video produced in an environment entirely under the
control of the hoaxer, there's nothing else to say.
If you want more, the only place you're going to get it is from the
producers of the joke video.
Why does my Samsung Sprint phone drop from an excellent signal to dropped
call to Digital Roam and back -- all within, say 15 seconds while sitting on
my desk at home in "Speaker" mode without anyone touching it or moving in
the same room?
Is this a phenomena unique to Sprint?
I've called their support and the answer is "You shouldn't have that
probelm" but no expanation.
I'm in Brooklyn, NY.
I also notice Digital Roam popping up in midtown Manhattan (38th and
Broadway, for example), crossing the Manhattan Bridge on the Subway and
other unexpected places.
Is the coverage that bad?
If so, anyone have any suggestions as to a more reliable carrier within New
York City?
What is happening here?
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