iPhone line begins 7 days before launch!

no wonder everyone is calling it the Instink :)

a good, non-biased review is here:

(ignore the 10 second commercial at the beginning)

http://snipurl.com/2ldmb

In article <xu45j7mvyt0n$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> > The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.
>
> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
> departments will allow them.

the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.


> He said making sure that vendors and other
> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
> thing, Apple...

Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.

Oxford wrote:

> In article <xu45j7mvyt0n$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
> Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:
>
>>> The iPhone is the next iPod, and there is no way to change that fact.
>>
>> I had lunch with my former CEO recently, and after we noticed someone
>> using an Iphone in the restaurant, I asked him if the company was going
>> to consider the new model as a replacement for the nearly 10,000
>> Blackberry 8820's and 8830's they're currently using. He asked me if it
>> had a camera, and when I said, "Yes", he said, "Then absolutely not!" He
>> reminded me of the company's "No cameras allowed" policy, and that he
>> couldn't imagine any company dealing with security issues and/or
>> government contracts allowing them, any more than many government
>> departments will allow them.
>
> the iPhone camera can be disabled via software.

Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.

>> He said making sure that vendors and other
>> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
>> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
>> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
>> thing, Apple...
>
> Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.

By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?

--
Dutch
Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m
tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008

On Jul 5, 5:51*pm, David Moyer <dav...@world.com> wrote:
> no wonder everyone is calling it the Instink :)
>
> a good, non-biased review is here:
>
> (ignore the 10 second commercial at the beginning)
>
> http://snipurl.com/2ldmb

Hey that was sorta like the Post article. At least it told the truth
it is a POS.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-732CB9.14173205072008@news.qwest.net:

> In article <486f83d2$0$7347$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>

>
>> Explain to me why my Blackberry Curve (on Verizon) isn't a "better"
>> device than the iPhone for practical use?
>
> it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
> significant developer base.
>

Your opinion means nothing- you've never used one. The application
inventory for Balckberry dwarfs anything that the iPhone has. And before
you stick your foot in it further- you need to investigate more than the
Blackberry site to find them all.

More lies from the Oxtard.

In article <Xns9AD2AAC3D517Ebob@216.196.97.136>,
The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > it has a tiny screen, poor keyboard, no multitouch, no UNIX OS, no
> > significant developer base.
> >
>
> Your opinion means nothing- you've never used one. The application
> inventory for Balckberry dwarfs anything that the iPhone has. And before
> you stick your foot in it further- you need to investigate more than the
> Blackberry site to find them all.

I had several clients with them before the iPhone appeared. Now we all
laugh at how primitive they were.

The app library is miniscule compared to the iPhone. 4,000 apps by July
11, and everyone better than what is available on a BB.

it's like a ghost town:

http://na.blackberry.com/eng/services/

compared to this:

http://www.apple.com/webapps/index.html

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message news:apony-732CB9.14173205072008@news.qwest.net...

>
> The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
> centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
> starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>

It's statements like the above absurdity that takes you from mere fanboi to complete idiot.
It's one thing talking about a product (or company) you like. It's totally another thing when you
pull crap directly out of you ass like the above.

Remember your wi-fi predictions that have crashed and burned?
Remember how you po-pooed 3G because your jesus phone didn't have it.
I can go on and on recounting the asinine shit you have posted.

Bottom line OxTARD - you don't even have an actual clue, do you?

STFU and go away - please.

In article <1olfivbwadbt6$.dlg@blackholespam.net>,
Dutch <buryit@blackholespam.net> wrote:

> >> Not good enough for security requirements. If it can be disabled, it can
> >> be enabled. The capability can't exist at all.
> >
> > then get them without the camera. if a company wants 10,000 of them,
> > apple will sell them that way. just ask.
>
> When Apple gets smart enough to offer version without a camera to
> enterprise users, the way RIM did with the 8800 series, then maybe the
> Iphone will merit some consideration.

apple can sell them without cameras, just ask.

> > or buy a $25 dremel drill for a permanent fix.
>
> Sure, that ought to do wonders for the warranty.

what? burnishing the lens would not affect the warranty.

> >>>> He said making sure that vendors and other
> >>>> visitors check their camera phones with security is a big enough hassle
> >>>> as it is, and allowing employees to have them would create a huge
> >>>> security risk and extra expense. Good luck with that "enterprise uptake"
> >>>> thing, Apple...
> >>>
> >>> Apple solved that Enterprise concern awhile ago.
> >>
> >> By ignoring the lack of enterprise users?
> >
> > apple has given them what they want, central camera disabling, central
> > erase, what else do you want them (or any camera vendor) to do?
>
> They'll have to eliminate the camera completely if they want to sell to
> the largest market segment in the world. As it is, their target market
> is just consumers looking for the latest new gadget. Maybe that's why
> AT&T had to give them the largest subsidy of any smartphone. They knew
> they couldn't sell them otherwise.

largest segment in the world? not even close. the companies needing that
level of security only represent a couple 100,000 units at most. it's a
yawner of a segment if you are concerned about sales.

if a company needs mass iphone deployment, just ask apple for no camera,
or disable the camera. both are easy to do.

Oxford wrote:



Enuf AAPL "advocacy".

If there is a single reason not to buy a single AAPL product, it is you.

WTF cares about any product advocated by NG shills like you.

If AAPL had a clue they would make sure you were enjoined from pissing
more people off.

"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote:

> > The Blackberry is fading quickly now that all the development is
> > centered on the iPhone. They had a good 6 year run, but they are dead
> > starting July 11th. The iPhone apps alone will be just too compelling.
>
> It's statements like the above absurdity that takes you from mere fanboi to
> complete idiot.

nah, you just aren't a student of history like I am. The Blackberry is
fast becoming the Diamond Rio, the iPhone is just too popular for them
to continue.

you'll see!

> It's one thing talking about a product (or company) you like. It's totally
> another thing when you
> pull crap directly out of you ass like the above.

It's based on solid historical research, I'm just the messenger.

> Remember your wi-fi predictions that have crashed and burned?
> Remember how you po-pooed 3G because your jesus phone didn't have it.
> I can go on and on recounting the asinine shit you have posted.
>
> Bottom line OxTARD - you don't even have an actual clue, do you?
>
> STFU and go away - please.

Ah, but my WiFi predictions have come true, a year later you can go
pretty much anywhere and have free WiFi, and this continues at an ever
accelerating rate. WiMax continues to gather steam as well, so having
the slow, battery eating 3G won't matter to most people with iPhones.