The Iphone Hype/Treo 700p

You forgot some of the REALLY cool features on the Iphone....

1> never have to change the SIM card...because you cant. It's inside,safe
and sound.
2> Never have to change the battery..you CAN'T..it's also inside, factory
service item only.
3> Voice dial? thats a "fad" that others screw with, at Apple they simply
dont go there.
4> Glass cover indeed, it doubles as a make-up mirror! Hard as hell to see
outside.
5> "Touchscreen dialing" makes driving the same old car EXCITING!!! Complete
a call or crash?
6> 1900Mhz antenna INSIDE the case.Help protect you from nasty RF, who cares
if it doesnt get out well?
7> Sync? what the hell is that? Apple didnt invent it, so it can't exist or
be needed!
8> EDGE data, why go fast? who is in a hurry anyways? Go SLOW with Edge,
enjoy the ride,take all day.
9> Already obsolete, Rev. 2 is on the drawing board. Your Rev 1.0 will be
landfill material before you finish paying for it.

I am sure i have missed some of those really COOL "features", But damn
it..when its so Chock-full of them you might miss a few.
If you discover some of them, please share the discovery? i need a good
laugh.

My local store sold out the i-phone in 45 minutes. I went if a few days
ago because the i-phone has an unlimited data plan for just $20. All the
other PDA have plans that are $40 or more for unlimited data. That sucks.

rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org wrote:
>
> All this discussion seems a little too self-congratulatory.
>
> Look, I'm a 650 user myself, and gave my wife pretty much the same
> answer, i.e., that I have zero interest in getting an iPhone, 'cause it
> doesn't do anything new for me (THAT I NEED) that I can't already do on
> my Treo with Sprint, for a lot less money.
>
> However...
>
> There are definitely some very good and cool things about the iPhone.
> The web browser appears to be MUCH better. The processor on the device
> seems to run rings around what's onboard the Treo.
>
> And the user interface sure appears to be much cleaner (albeit less
> efficient in a few cases).
>
> There's no need for sour grapes. It's a different phone, that's all. It
> has good points and bad ones.

Dave wrote:
> My local store sold out the i-phone in 45 minutes. I went if a few days
> ago because the i-phone has an unlimited data plan for just $20. All the
> other PDA have plans that are $40 or more for unlimited data. That sucks.

On Sprint, I pay $30/month for 500 anytime minutes and unlimited data
(SERO plan). I have a Treo 650.

> rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org wrote:
>>
>> All this discussion seems a little too self-congratulatory.
>>
>> Look, I'm a 650 user myself, and gave my wife pretty much the same
>> answer, i.e., that I have zero interest in getting an iPhone, 'cause
>> it doesn't do anything new for me (THAT I NEED) that I can't already
>> do on my Treo with Sprint, for a lot less money.
>>
>> However...
>>
>> There are definitely some very good and cool things about the iPhone.
>> The web browser appears to be MUCH better. The processor on the device
>> seems to run rings around what's onboard the Treo.
>>
>> And the user interface sure appears to be much cleaner (albeit less
>> efficient in a few cases).
>>
>> There's no need for sour grapes. It's a different phone, that's all.
>> It has good points and bad ones.

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 07:45:53 -0700,
"rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org" <NoSuchPerson@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Dave wrote:
>> My local store sold out the i-phone in 45 minutes. I went if a few days
>> ago because the i-phone has an unlimited data plan for just $20. All the
>> other PDA have plans that are $40 or more for unlimited data. That sucks.
>
>On Sprint, I pay $30/month for 500 anytime minutes and unlimited data
>(SERO plan). I have a Treo 650.
>
>> rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org wrote:
>>>
>>> All this discussion seems a little too self-congratulatory.
>>>
>>> Look, I'm a 650 user myself, and gave my wife pretty much the same
>>> answer, i.e., that I have zero interest in getting an iPhone, 'cause
>>> it doesn't do anything new for me (THAT I NEED) that I can't already
>>> do on my Treo with Sprint, for a lot less money.
>>>
>>> However...
>>>
>>> There are definitely some very good and cool things about the iPhone.
>>> The web browser appears to be MUCH better. The processor on the device
>>> seems to run rings around what's onboard the Treo.
>>>
>>> And the user interface sure appears to be much cleaner (albeit less
>>> efficient in a few cases).
>>>
>>> There's no need for sour grapes. It's a different phone, that's all.
>>> It has good points and bad ones.


I too, have a Treo 650 that I am pretty happy with. It is a working
phone that does what I need it to. That is the difference I believe.
the iPhone is a phone for surfing the web, answering emails, listening
to music, gazing at pics, and a phone. It is not a working phone with
any of the business functions many of us need. It is truly a toy.

If Sprint offered it I might get one, not for $500. I will staty with
working phones, because that is what I need. Although I am thinking
about moving to the HTC Mogul.

"Dave" wrote:
> My local store sold out the i-phone in 45 minutes. I went if a few days
> ago because the i-phone has an unlimited data plan for just $20. All the
> other PDA have plans that are $40 or more for unlimited data. That sucks.
>

Except all other PDA data plans are *not* "$40 or more." This is a Sprint
newsgroup. With Sprint you can get unlimited data for PDAs for just $15 per
month (EV-DO too).

The iPhone cannot be used as a modem but Sprint's PDA phones can. For $40
per month you would get not only unlimited data on the PDA phone itself, but
also unlimited data to use the PDA as a modem for a PC/laptop. Not a bad
deal IMO.

What I think is not a good deal is paying full price for the iPhone and
still having to commit to a two year contract. To me a contract is a two-way
street: both parties should get something out of it. What exactly does the
consumer get out of an iPhone contract?


--
Mike

At 04 Jul 2007 10:34:19 -0700 Tinman wrote:

> What I think is not a good deal is paying full price for the iPhone and
> still having to commit to a two year contract. To me a contract is a
two-way
> street: both parties should get something out of it. What exactly does
the
> consumer get out of an iPhone contract?

They get the ability to actually USE it! This thing is so locked down it
won't even work as an iPod until activated, and only with it's contract
SIM- stick another AT&T SIM in and it goes back to paperweight mode...



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On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:34:19 -0700, Tinman <ask@for.it> wrote:


>"Dave" wrote:
>> My local store sold out the i-phone in 45 minutes. I went if a few days
>> ago because the i-phone has an unlimited data plan for just $20. All the
>> other PDA have plans that are $40 or more for unlimited data. That sucks.
>>

>Except all other PDA data plans are *not* "$40 or more." This is a Sprint
>newsgroup. With Sprint you can get unlimited data for PDAs for just $15 per
>month (EV-DO too).

>The iPhone cannot be used as a modem but Sprint's PDA phones can. For $40
>per month you would get not only unlimited data on the PDA phone itself, but
>also unlimited data to use the PDA as a modem for a PC/laptop. Not a bad
>deal IMO.

>What I think is not a good deal is paying full price for the iPhone and
>still having to commit to a two year contract. To me a contract is a two-way
>street: both parties should get something out of it. What exactly does the
>consumer get out of an iPhone contract?

Also, the iphone doesn't use a 3G network. It works more like sprint did 8
years ago. The iphone networking is similar to a 56K modem. (100kbps max,
actually) Sprint runs more like 300-400kbps.

And who the hell wants a phone that has to be sent back to the factory to
get a new battery? It's one thing to do without an ipod for 4 weeks, but
who wants to do without a cellphone for that period of time?

At 08 Jul 2007 18:06:42 +0000 AZ Nomad wrote:

> Also, the iphone doesn't use a 3G network. It works more like sprint
did 8
> years ago. The iphone networking is similar to a 56K modem. (100kbps
max,
> actually) Sprint runs more like 300-400kbps.

EDGE is good for about 150kbps. I find it sufficient for mobile use on a
phone (e-mail, wap browsing, etc.) Tethering to a laptop is painful,
though. (Which the iPhone can't do anyway.)


> And who the hell wants a phone that has to be sent back to the factory
to
> get a new battery? It's one thing to do without an ipod for 4 weeks,
but
> who wants to do without a cellphone for that period of time?

Everyone is making too much of this, IMO. With GSM, changing phones is
almost as easy as changing socks, and the SIM can easily be placed in an
old or loaner phone for the week it'll be at the shop.

Plus, in this day and age, peoople don't tend to keep phones long enough
for batteries to die! The replacement issue will be a problem for the
guy who buys it used on eBay in two or three years after the original
owner's upgraded to an iPhone II, or iPhone Nano, or whatever they call
the next one.



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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:40:28 -0600, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:


>Everyone is making too much of this, IMO. With GSM, changing phones is
>almost as easy as changing socks, and the SIM can easily be placed in an
>old or loaner phone for the week it'll be at the shop.

Does the iphone have a removable simcard?
How many people will know to keep their old phone handy? (Reminds me of
AT&T wireless of 2000 where one had to keep their old phone handy to make
analog calls in fringe digital areas because AT&T was too ****ing cheap to
arrange fallback analog coverage anywhere within 100 miles of a digital
coverage area)



>Plus, in this day and age, peoople don't tend to keep phones long enough
>for batteries to die! The replacement issue will be a problem for the

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You're really reaching.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that nobody expects an iphone
to last more than a year.

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:40:28 -0600, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Everyone is making too much of this, IMO. With GSM, changing phones is
>> almost as easy as changing socks, and the SIM can easily be placed in an
>> old or loaner phone for the week it'll be at the shop.
>
> Does the iphone have a removable simcard?

Yes, based on Walt Mossberg's Mailbox column this week. You have to use
a paper clip to get access to it.

> How many people will know to keep their old phone handy? (Reminds me of
> AT&T wireless of 2000 where one had to keep their old phone handy to make
> analog calls in fringe digital areas because AT&T was too ****ing cheap to
> arrange fallback analog coverage anywhere within 100 miles of a digital
> coverage area)
>
>
>
>> Plus, in this day and age, peoople don't tend to keep phones long enough
>> for batteries to die! The replacement issue will be a problem for the
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You're really reaching.
> I guess I shouldn't be surprised that nobody expects an iphone
> to last more than a year.

Your batteries last only a year??? My Treo battery is 18 months old,
and going strong.

My wife's Kyocera 6035 has to be 5 years old, and its batteries are
working just fine. Okay, so we swap batteries once a week -- so its
batteries have at least 30 months' of uptime on them, each.