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Old February 21st, 2008, 12:57 PM
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Default How many users actually benefit from $99 unlimited?

For the cost of one of those $99 unlimited plans (which will be about
$115 after taxes and fees), you could buy about 2150 minutes on a
prepaid network (at about 5.3¢ per minute). That's about 35 hours a
month. Other than certain business people, i.e. realtors, field service,
etc., how many users actually use over 2000 minutes per month?

PagePlus charges as low as 5.3¢/minute for voice, and as low as 3.5¢ per
text message (when you buy the $80 "1400 minute" card at a discounted
price of $74). They also offer unlimited voice minutes for $2.49 a day,
or $75 for a 30 day month.

It seems that too many consumers look at the "unlimited" part, without
understanding that $99 is a) not really $99, and b) not such a great
deal compared to non-unlimited plans, and c) a lot more than they have
to pay for unlimited voice.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:06 PM
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Default How many users actually benefit from $99 unlimited?

Great post. You are 1000% correct. I don't even need the 1000 minutes I get
from T-mobile, but I'm only paying $39.99 & that includes free nights &
weekends.


"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> For the cost of one of those $99 unlimited plans (which will be about $115
> after taxes and fees), you could buy about 2150 minutes on a prepaid
> network (at about 5.3¢ per minute). That's about 35 hours a month. Other
> than certain business people, i.e. realtors, field service, etc., how many
> users actually use over 2000 minutes per month?
>
> PagePlus charges as low as 5.3¢/minute for voice, and as low as 3.5¢ per
> text message (when you buy the $80 "1400 minute" card at a discounted
> price of $74). They also offer unlimited voice minutes for $2.49 a day, or
> $75 for a 30 day month.
>
> It seems that too many consumers look at the "unlimited" part, without
> understanding that $99 is a) not really $99, and b) not such a great deal
> compared to non-unlimited plans, and c) a lot more than they have to pay
> for unlimited voice.



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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:27 PM
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Default How many users actually benefit from $99 unlimited?

Ben Skversky wrote:
> Great post. You are 1000% correct. I don't even need the 1000 minutes I get
> from T-mobile, but I'm only paying $39.99 & that includes free nights &
> weekends.


Yes, T-Mobile is a great deal for a lot of peak minutes. Unfortunately
they have no coverage yet where I live, and poor coverage where I
usually travel to.

I pay $30 for 300 minutes and unlimited N&W on Verizon, and I just don't
get into long gab fests during peak times.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:19 PM
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Default How many users actually benefit from $99 unlimited?

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:02:25 -0500, "Ben Skversky"
<bskv19114@comcast.net> wrote:

>Great post. You are 1000% correct. I don't even need the 1000 minutes I get
>from T-mobile, but I'm only paying $39.99 & that includes free nights &
>weekends.
>
>
>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>news:47bdabbd$0$36387$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net.. .
>> For the cost of one of those $99 unlimited plans (which will be about $115
>> after taxes and fees), you could buy about 2150 minutes on a prepaid
>> network (at about 5.3¢ per minute). That's about 35 hours a month. Other
>> than certain business people, i.e. realtors, field service, etc., how many
>> users actually use over 2000 minutes per month?
>>
>> PagePlus charges as low as 5.3¢/minute for voice, and as low as 3.5¢ per
>> text message (when you buy the $80 "1400 minute" card at a discounted
>> price of $74). They also offer unlimited voice minutes for $2.49 a day, or
>> $75 for a 30 day month.
>>
>> It seems that too many consumers look at the "unlimited" part, without
>> understanding that $99 is a) not really $99, and b) not such a great deal
>> compared to non-unlimited plans, and c) a lot more than they have to pay
>> for unlimited voice.

>


ATTs previous plans offered 2000 minutes for $99.99
4000 for $149.99 and
6000 for $199.99

Many folks prefer the greater convienence of post-paid plans,
so anyone with any of those three previous plans would be a candidate
for a $99.99 unlimited plan, as would anyopne one the 1350 minutes
$79.99 plan that ever went over and paid 35 cents a minute for that
overage.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:19 PM
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Ron wrote:

> ATTs previous plans offered 2000 minutes for $99.99
> 4000 for $149.99 and
> 6000 for $199.99
>
> Many folks prefer the greater convienence of post-paid plans,
> so anyone with any of those three previous plans would be a candidate
> for a $99.99 unlimited plan, as would anyopne one the 1350 minutes
> $79.99 plan that ever went over and paid 35 cents a minute for that
> overage.


I suppose, but if I were those people I'd definitely choose the PagePlus
unlimited at about $75 per month, plus it's not "plus taxes, fees, etc."

Actually you can get it for about $2.30/day or about $69/month, if you
buy the refill cards at a discount. I.e. the $80 card can be purchased
for $73.72, a discount of 7.85%.

The biggest benefit is that it's on Verizon, which has the best coverage
of any U.S. network.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:32 PM
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Ron wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:02:25 -0500, "Ben Skversky"
> <bskv19114@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Great post. You are 1000% correct. I don't even need the 1000 minutes I get

>
>>from T-mobile, but I'm only paying $39.99 & that includes free nights &

>
>>weekends.
>>
>>
>>"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>>news:47bdabbd$0$36387$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net. ..
>>
>>>For the cost of one of those $99 unlimited plans (which will be about $115
>>>after taxes and fees), you could buy about 2150 minutes on a prepaid
>>>network (at about 5.3¢ per minute). That's about 35 hours a month. Other
>>>than certain business people, i.e. realtors, field service, etc., how many
>>>users actually use over 2000 minutes per month?
>>>
>>>PagePlus charges as low as 5.3¢/minute for voice, and as low as 3.5¢ per
>>>text message (when you buy the $80 "1400 minute" card at a discounted
>>>price of $74). They also offer unlimited voice minutes for $2.49 a day, or
>>>$75 for a 30 day month.
>>>
>>>It seems that too many consumers look at the "unlimited" part, without
>>>understanding that $99 is a) not really $99, and b) not such a great deal
>>>compared to non-unlimited plans, and c) a lot more than they have to pay
>>>for unlimited voice.

>>

>
> ATTs previous plans offered 2000 minutes for $99.99
> 4000 for $149.99 and
> 6000 for $199.99
>
> Many folks prefer the greater convienence of post-paid plans,
> so anyone with any of those three previous plans would be a candidate
> for a $99.99 unlimited plan, as would anyopne one the 1350 minutes
> $79.99 plan that ever went over and paid 35 cents a minute for that
> overage.


35 cents a minute? Gawd! If my mother or my stepmother had lived to
see cell phones, they would have talked sixteen hours per day and the
family would have been bankrupt!

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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:58 PM
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Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> 35 cents a minute? Gawd! If my mother or my stepmother had lived to
> see cell phones, they would have talked sixteen hours per day and the
> family would have been bankrupt!


35¢ a minute is actually pretty low for overage charges.

That's actually one of the big advantages of prepaid, you don't pay
outrageous overages, you just pay the normal per minute rate. Prepaid is
available on Verizon's network for as little as 5.3¢ per minute.

Sprint had a deal for a while that got rid of the huge overage charges,
called "Fair and Flexible."

It's a double-edged sword for the carriers. If they made the overages
reasonable then subscribers would be less careful about going over, and
use more than their plan minutes without much concern. However that
would cause some subscribers to move to lower tiers, which would cost
the carrier money.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:41 PM
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:17:24 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bdbf80$0$36372$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>I suppose, but if I were those people I'd definitely choose the PagePlus
>unlimited at about $75 per month, plus it's not "plus taxes, fees, etc."


Deity help us -- you're morphing into a shill for PagePlus!

>Actually you can get it for about $2.30/day or about $69/month, if you
>buy the refill cards at a discount. I.e. the $80 card can be purchased
>for $73.72, a discount of 7.85%.
>
>The biggest benefit is that it's on Verizon, which has the best coverage
>of any U.S. network.


But still a Verizon shill I see.

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Old February 21st, 2008, 04:01 PM
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In my job, I go as far west on the Pa. turnpike to Harrisburg, Pa., on the
NJ turnpike I go as far north to Fort Lee, NJ. I have no problems with
T-mobile.



"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Ben Skversky wrote:
>> Great post. You are 1000% correct. I don't even need the 1000 minutes I
>> get from T-mobile, but I'm only paying $39.99 & that includes free nights
>> & weekends.

>
> Yes, T-Mobile is a great deal for a lot of peak minutes. Unfortunately
> they have no coverage yet where I live, and poor coverage where I usually
> travel to.
>
> I pay $30 for 300 minutes and unlimited N&W on Verizon, and I just don't
> get into long gab fests during peak times.



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Old February 21st, 2008, 05:10 PM
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:56:57 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bde4e5$0$36327$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>In the western U.S., T-Mobile took over the horrid Cingular/Pac Bell
>1900 MHz GSM network, which has poor coverage. They've been trying to
>improve things, but have run into a lot of opposition to suburban cell
>sites. Still, it's slowly improving. Sometime in 2008 I should get
>coverage at my house, but there are still a lot of areas of the Bay Area
>with coverage holes, much more than with Verizon or AT&T.


Nonsense. The old Cingular now T-Mobile actually has good coverage.
Will you stop the trolling when you finally get coverage in your house?
Or must your wife get coverage at work too? ;)

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