Gordon Huff wrote:
> Mark Crispin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>>> T-Mobile
>>>>> (gsm)
>>>> Or Suncom.
>>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>>
>> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>>
> or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne
> or ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
> Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
> Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova
> or Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...
>
> depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
> Regards
Gordon Huff, did transcribed the following::
> Mark Crispin wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>>> T-Mobile
>>>>> (gsm)
>>>> Or Suncom.
>>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>>
>> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>>
> or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne
> or ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
> Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
> Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova
> or Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...
>
> depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
> Regards
I believe that all those above use the AT&T (I think its there
backbone?) service.
Or any vendor that has a service agreement with AT&T to handle
sellphones using the
ATT network.
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:30:00 GMT, Gordon Huff
> <wa6fmx@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> Alltel
>
> The iPhone works on Alltel???
>
I don't have an iPhone and I don't live in Alltel territory so I can't
answer this question directly. I was suggesting that there are more GSM
carriers in the US than ATT and T-Mobile.
Regards, Gordon
>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>> T-Mobile gsm)
>> or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne
>> or ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
>> Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
>> Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova
>> or Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...
>>
>> depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
>> Regards
>
> I believe that all those above use the AT&T (I think its there
> backbone?) service.
No. "Backbone" service is something different - MCI might be the biggest
player. This list from GSMWorld has flaws ... some companies have
promised service and not delivered yet .. others have died or gone away.
Last time I counted there we 58 such GSM companies in the US. Maybe 30
are active. An iPhone user needs a carrier account - connecting to a
"backbone" is something different.
> Or any vendor that has a service agreement with AT&T to handle
> sellphones using the
> ATT network.
>
I think there are about 65 Mobile Virtual Network Operators or are you
talking about roaming agreements? I think ATT claims 192 or so roaming
agreements around the world.
Regards, Gordon
On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:45:58 GMT, Gordon Huff
<wa6fmx@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:30:00 GMT, Gordon Huff
>> <wa6fmx@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Alltel
>>
>> The iPhone works on Alltel???
>>
>
>I don't have an iPhone and I don't live in Alltel territory so I can't
>answer this question directly. I was suggesting that there are more GSM
>carriers in the US than ATT and T-Mobile.
Mark Crispin wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>> T-Mobile
>>>> (gsm)
>>> Or Suncom.
>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>
> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>
> -- Mark --
>
> http://staff.washington.edu/mrc
> Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate.
> Si vis pacem, para bellum.
and suncom is now part of t-mobile. http://suncom.com/support/tMobileMerger.jsp
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:45:58 GMT, Gordon Huff
> <wa6fmx@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:30:00 GMT, Gordon Huff
>>> <wa6fmx@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alltel
>>> The iPhone works on Alltel???
>>>
>> I don't have an iPhone and I don't live in Alltel territory so I can't
>> answer this question directly. I was suggesting that there are more GSM
>> carriers in the US than ATT and T-Mobile.
>
> Alltel is a CDMA carrier.
>
According to GSMWorld (and Howardforums) Alltel offers GSM service to
roaming customers. If you were absolutely determined to run your iPhone
on Alltel ... you would set it up on some other carrier and go someplace
where Alltel provides roaming access to that carrier.
This begs the question 'can you get the data service you need while
roaming." You could certainly make phone calls over Alltel with any GSM
phone while roaming as I describe.
Regards, Gordon
> Gordon Huff wrote:
>> Mark Crispin wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, danny burstein posted:
>>>>>> SO... for domestic US users, the choice would only be ATT (gsm) or
>>>>>> T-Mobile
>>>>>> (gsm)
>>>>> Or Suncom.
>>>> Or Dobson. Or Constoga.
>>>
>>> Dobson is now part of ATT.
>>>
>> or Advantage, or Aradigm or Alaska Wireless or Alltel or CellularOne
>> or ANW or Arctic Slope Cooperative or CT Cube or Caprock Celluar or
>> Centennial or West Central Wireless or Chariton Valley or Amerilink or
>> Cincinnati Bell or Coleman or Commnet or Concho or Convoy or Cordova
>> or Corr or MBO or BigFoot or ...
>>
>> depending on where you live and work, you could have allotta choices!
>> Regards
>
> Yeah, I guess -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...hone_companies
> Was originally thinking of just the major players...
> Wonder if the registered ESN has any "company" related info, like an
> Ethernet MAC ?
GSM phones do not use ESN's. They have IMEI numbers, but all tracking and
connection info is provided by sims, which can, and are, moved from phone
to phone.
When you unlock a GSM phone you are actually allowing the phone to accept
sims from different carriers.
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