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Old April 6th, 2008, 01:03 PM
John Yossarian
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:07:22 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

>At 31 Mar 2008 16:02:51 -0500 John Yossarian wrote:
>
>> My only question is what exactly was fixed with regards to the GPS. I
>> have a Bluetooth GPS that worked just fine before the upgrade, and it
>> still works fine now. Was this not the case for everyone?

>
>You do realize the Mogul has a built-in internal GPS, right?
>
>What was "fixed" is now you can use the internal GPS INSTEAD of lugging a
>separate BT GPS around.
>


I did know that the Mogul has a GPS, but the manual implies it's
strictly for E911 services. So far, the Google Maps application seems
to be the only one I can find that uses the internal capability for
other than this service.

I've specifically been trying to find something that will graphically
display raw GPS data (heading, speed, altitude, etc.) and does not
require a data connection. I've specifically tried VisualGPSce (link
below) but with no success. It appears to be looking for a GPS via
serial connection and doesn't recognize the internal one. Any ideas?

http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm
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Old April 6th, 2008, 03:59 PM
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At 06 Apr 2008 10:49:51 -0500 John Yossarian wrote:

> >What was "fixed" is now you can use the internal GPS INSTEAD of lugging a
> >separate BT GPS around.
> >

>
> I did know that the Mogul has a GPS, but the manual implies it's
> strictly for E911 services.


True but Sprint supposedly "unlocked it" in the last firmware update.

> So far, the Google Maps application seems
> to be the only one I can find that uses the internal capability for
> other than this service.


Generally Google Maps for WinMo uses the WinMo GPS Intermediate Driver, so
any app that can access that (Windows Live Search, Navizon, etc.) SHOULD be
able to access that.

> I've specifically been trying to find something that will graphically
> display raw GPS data (heading, speed, altitude, etc.) and does not
> require a data connection. I've specifically tried VisualGPSce (link
> below) but with no success. It appears to be looking for a GPS via
> serial connection and doesn't recognize the internal one. Any ideas?
>
> http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm



No ideas from me, I'm afraid, unless you can set the GPS driver to a
virtual port and VGPS can make use of it...


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Old April 6th, 2008, 06:23 PM
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"John Yossarian" <nospam@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:gtrhv3p6iupdt2lgqsujodh49nuvkk935v@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:07:22 -0600, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>>At 31 Mar 2008 16:02:51 -0500 John Yossarian wrote:
>>
>>> My only question is what exactly was fixed with regards to the GPS. I
>>> have a Bluetooth GPS that worked just fine before the upgrade, and it
>>> still works fine now. Was this not the case for everyone?

>>
>>You do realize the Mogul has a built-in internal GPS, right?
>>
>>What was "fixed" is now you can use the internal GPS INSTEAD of lugging a
>>separate BT GPS around.
>>

>
> I did know that the Mogul has a GPS, but the manual implies it's
> strictly for E911 services. So far, the Google Maps application seems
> to be the only one I can find that uses the internal capability for
> other than this service.
>
> I've specifically been trying to find something that will graphically
> display raw GPS data (heading, speed, altitude, etc.) and does not
> require a data connection. I've specifically tried VisualGPSce (link
> below) but with no success. It appears to be looking for a GPS via
> serial connection and doesn't recognize the internal one. Any ideas?
>
> http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm


It IS a serial-connected GPS. Look for it on COM4 with baud rate 4800bps.
Any program that works with external GPS will work with internal one,
although some may require "priming" it first. See
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032 for more info.

--
Sincerely,
LAman
alex ** at ** orthodox ** com


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Old April 6th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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"LAman" <a@b.org.gov> wrote in message
news:AYaKj.855$CW.849@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net.. .
>
> It IS a serial-connected GPS. Look for it on COM4 with baud rate 4800bps.
> Any program that works with external GPS will work with internal one,
> although some may require "priming" it first. See
> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032 for more info.


Thanks for the URL.

The COM4 is necessary but I've seen "Google Maps for Mobile" work with any
baudrate setting and since I needed COM4 to get PDANET to work I put my
External GPS on COM0 and things still work.

Hey, since we are posting about the Mogul I have a quick story. To make a
long story short I wanted to show someone that owns an iPhone something he
could not do with an iPhone. So I showed him that I can use my laptop to
play the audio from my Mogul via BT Stereo. (note: iPhone only has BT
hands-free and not BT Stereo)


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Old April 7th, 2008, 12:30 AM
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"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "LAman" <a@b.org.gov> wrote in message
> news:AYaKj.855$CW.849@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net.. .
>>
>> It IS a serial-connected GPS. Look for it on COM4 with baud rate 4800bps.
>> Any program that works with external GPS will work with internal one,
>> although some may require "priming" it first. See
>> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032 for more info.

>
> Thanks for the URL.
>
> The COM4 is necessary but I've seen "Google Maps for Mobile" work with any
> baudrate setting and since I needed COM4 to get PDANET to work I put my
> External GPS on COM0 and things still work.
>
> Hey, since we are posting about the Mogul I have a quick story. To make a
> long story short I wanted to show someone that owns an iPhone something he
> could not do with an iPhone. So I showed him that I can use my laptop to
> play the audio from my Mogul via BT Stereo. (note: iPhone only has BT
> hands-free and not BT Stereo)
>
>


Why would you use PDANet if you can use Internet Sharing which incurs no
overhead, becomes a network adapter (does not using serial protocol) and
allows you to get calls without losing connection, and is FREE to boot? All
you have to do is 1 registry edit and you're home free as long as you have
Active Sync on the computer.


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Old April 7th, 2008, 03:18 AM
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"LAman" <a@b.org.gov> wrote in message
news:lsgKj.1123$GO4.310@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in message
> news:9PydncJBRbSJ3mTanZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@giganews.com ...
> >
> > "LAman" <a@b.org.gov> wrote in message
> > news:AYaKj.855$CW.849@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net.. .
> >>
> >> It IS a serial-connected GPS. Look for it on COM4 with baud rate

4800bps.
> >> Any program that works with external GPS will work with internal one,
> >> although some may require "priming" it first. See
> >> http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=17032 for more info.

> >
> > Thanks for the URL.
> >
> > The COM4 is necessary but I've seen "Google Maps for Mobile" work with

any
> > baudrate setting and since I needed COM4 to get PDANET to work I put my
> > External GPS on COM0 and things still work.
> >
> > Hey, since we are posting about the Mogul I have a quick story. To make

a
> > long story short I wanted to show someone that owns an iPhone something

he
> > could not do with an iPhone. So I showed him that I can use my laptop

to
> > play the audio from my Mogul via BT Stereo. (note: iPhone only has BT
> > hands-free and not BT Stereo)
> >
> >

>
> Why would you use PDANet if you can use Internet Sharing which incurs no
> overhead, becomes a network adapter (does not using serial protocol) and
> allows you to get calls without losing connection, and is FREE to boot?

All
> you have to do is 1 registry edit and you're home free as long as you have
> Active Sync on the computer.


"if you can use?" That is the key phrase.

Microsoft does not allow you to use "Internet Sharing" to go from a
PPC/phone with fast internet to a PPC/phone with slow internet. They force
you to use BT DUN like PDANET has for that and there are times when I want
to do that.

However, you can use "Internet Sharing" via "Bluetooth PAN" to get the
internet from a Mogul to an iPAQ 210 with no internet of it's own but I
don't know who gets the credit for that.

Plus, I have not found a way to automatically start "Internet Sharing" or to
automatically connect to a device running "Internet Sharing." However with
BT DUN like what PDANET provides things can be "Turnkey" where all you have
to do is turn on the power.


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