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Old June 9th, 2008, 04:45 PM
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David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote in news:meetme-14599A.14283809062008
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> yeah, but you wouldn't want the unreliability of that, plus you'd still
> have to spend 15-20 minutes coping it to the memory card, so your idea
> is too complicated to make any valid sense.
>
>


Oh, come on! When was the last time you had a memory card fail you didn't
crush stupidly. I buy the cheapest ones on the planet (A-card, $59 for
16GB on buy.com) and they work flawlessly!

Unreliable?.....and you have a iPhone with hotglued cables in it?!

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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > automatically covert it to the iPhone or iPod Touch.

>
> What nonsense "convert it". Download it from usenet and PLAY IT....just
> like your laptop or desktop.


then you can do that too. do you even own a cell phone?

your comments seem very uneducated.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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In article <Xns9AB8A8A75C02Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

>
> Oh, come on! When was the last time you had a memory card fail you didn't
> crush stupidly. I buy the cheapest ones on the planet (A-card, $59 for
> 16GB on buy.com) and they work flawlessly!
>
> Unreliable?.....and you have a iPhone with hotglued cables in it?!


i'm not saying the cards are, but the "people" trying to manage those
cards are. too much room for error so better to go the full mile and
have the iphone simply sync all data, movies, songs, etc and recharge it
with one simple cable.

no futzing around like people used to do with memory cards, those days
are long gone.

do you even have a cell phone?
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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:36 PM
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David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote in news:meetme-14599A.14283809062008
@news.qwest.net:

> and the whole MobileMe.com stuff is far ahead of anyone in
> the market... watch the tour and you'll start to learn about your future.
>
>


Are YOU going to give them a HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR for MobileMe?

A HUNDRED DOLLARS?!!

ARE YOU CRAZY?!!

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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:52 PM
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David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote in news:meetme-5790EE.15120309062008
@news.qwest.net:

> no futzing around like people used to do with memory cards, those days
> are long gone.
>
> do you even have a cell phone?
>
>


Yes, but it only has a 4GB microSD in it, a MotoROKR Z6m. It's just a
bluetooth modem with an MP3 player in it...(c;

I use an array of memory cards for the N800 Linux tablet. I have some
old 8GB cards full of music and ebooks and the 16GB external card is for
Divx movies off alt.binaries.movies.divx. (I'm enjoying the flood of old
Westerns that someone posted at the moment.)

I don't change out the internal 16GB card. It's for storage of Maemo
Mapper's mosaic panels from Google, Virtual Earth, Runway Finder
(aeronautical charts), etc.; a couple hundred Palm OS apps that run under
Garnet Virtual Machine, the new Palm OS people; 256MB of extra virtual
memory expanding the internal fixed memory; lots of data and library
files the installed software uses.....sorta like C:\Programs on a WinXP
box....and a few movies I like to keep on the tablet as there's lots of
space left unused.

I can't imagine being stuck with ANY device I wouldn't have removeable
storage of some kind available. I need to have unlimited storage that
swappable storage provides.

Now, the smartassed Linux hackers have a little app that puts our USB
port into OTG and HOST mode, as well as the defaulted Peripheral mode it
uses to restore the OS. Memory just went way up as I can plug in one of
my massive 500/750GB or 1TB external USB hard drives! I can just move
the hard drive from the PC to the tablet and let the tablet copy stuff
off the hard drive straight onto its memory cards or the other way,
without using Bluetooth FTP or over the wifi, which is much slower. And,
doing that doesn't upset whatever the XP box is downloading by having to
cope with copying onto the memory cards plugged into the PC via a USB
adapter.

The tablet, of course, won't POWER the external hard drives, so you have
to have them plugged into an AC adapter or a car cord if you want to
carry it with you....(c;

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Old June 9th, 2008, 05:52 PM
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David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote in news:meetme-5790EE.15120309062008
@news.qwest.net:

> i'm not saying the cards are, but the "people" trying to manage those
> cards are. too much room for error so better to go the full mile and
> have the iphone simply sync all data, movies, songs, etc and recharge

it
> with one simple cable.
>
>


If you can't handle the files on a card, how do you handle the files on a
hard drive?? There's PLENTY of room for error on the hard drive!

The N800's File Manager was specifically designed with users in mind. It
gives them no access, at all, of anything Linux, only their personal
files and folders. The File Manager can't change or delete any system
files, library files, anything that might destroy the tablet, or the
memory it uses, even on the cards.

For that, there's EMELFM2, a dual pane Linux file handler ported to the
Maemo tablets and every Linux/Unix system.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/emelfm2/
With it, you can just blow it all to hell!.....(c;
But that's not death to a tablet. It just means you have to reinstall
the OS via USB from your WinXP box and the handy tablet burner and
reinstall everything as punishment for screwing up. We do that every
once in a while, anyway, just to clean off the table and start over
anew!....(c;

Xterm is our favorite video game....If you lose, you lose BIGTIME!



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Old June 9th, 2008, 06:17 PM
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David Moyer <meetme@world.com> wrote in news:meetme-F681DA.15060409062008
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> your comments seem very uneducated.
>


I'm sorry, Sir, but it is YOU who is uneducated. You need to investigate
the world OUTSIDE of Apple's kiddieware. Educate yourself to new
horizons that don't have training wheels you can't take off on net
appliances you don't control.

I'm no coder, just an informed user. However, I really do appreciate
those much smarter than I who provide me with such wonderful toys and
experiences. I'm a hardware guy, and know enough not to venture too far
into the software guys' domain. But, I have great respect for them.
Without them, the hardware is useless, no matter how fast and brilliantly
it is designed.

I'm no "Nokia Fanboi", either. They happen to have built the neatest
machine AT THE MOMENT, that the software geniuses seem to have "taken a
shine to".

Come take a spin outside the Appleware world. Leave the training wheels
back home. You can't really hurt it, permanently, unless you get so
frustrated you throw it through a window, of course. That's half the
fun!

......and after you buy it, it costs you NOTHING to load it with some of
the coolest stuff on the planet:
http://maemo.org/downloads/OS2008/
just click the GREEN ARROW to install it. You can mow the lawn next
week...(c;

I saw some new games at the iPhone announcement today. A couple of days
ago, the Linux geniuses brought us this and gave it to us:
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/vgba/
How many games can a Gameboy Advanced play?.....??
Anyone with kids already has the GBA cartridges....
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Old June 9th, 2008, 06:17 PM
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In article <Xns9AB8B4E1BF829noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> If you can't handle the files on a card, how do you handle the files on a
> hard drive?? There's PLENTY of room for error on the hard drive!
>
> The N800's File Manager was specifically designed with users in mind. It
> gives them no access, at all, of anything Linux, only their personal
> files and folders. The File Manager can't change or delete any system
> files, library files, anything that might destroy the tablet, or the
> memory it uses, even on the cards.
>
> For that, there's EMELFM2, a dual pane Linux file handler ported to the
> Maemo tablets and every Linux/Unix system.
> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/emelfm2/
> With it, you can just blow it all to hell!.....(c;
> But that's not death to a tablet. It just means you have to reinstall
> the OS via USB from your WinXP box and the handy tablet burner and
> reinstall everything as punishment for screwing up. We do that every
> once in a while, anyway, just to clean off the table and start over
> anew!....(c;
>
> Xterm is our favorite video game....If you lose, you lose BIGTIME!


do you even understand how the iphone operates?

ah, you don't deal with files on the hard drive, since iTunes does all
that automatically!

you just choose the software, music, movies you want and click "sync".
done!

very easy, but probably too easy for you to understand.
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Old June 9th, 2008, 08:12 PM
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"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
news:meetme-0A28EA.16091709062008@news.qwest.net...
> In article <Xns9AB8B4E1BF829noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> If you can't handle the files on a card, how do you handle the files on a
>> hard drive?? There's PLENTY of room for error on the hard drive!
>>
>> The N800's File Manager was specifically designed with users in mind. It
>> gives them no access, at all, of anything Linux, only their personal
>> files and folders. The File Manager can't change or delete any system
>> files, library files, anything that might destroy the tablet, or the
>> memory it uses, even on the cards.
>>
>> For that, there's EMELFM2, a dual pane Linux file handler ported to the
>> Maemo tablets and every Linux/Unix system.
>> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/emelfm2/
>> With it, you can just blow it all to hell!.....(c;
>> But that's not death to a tablet. It just means you have to reinstall
>> the OS via USB from your WinXP box and the handy tablet burner and
>> reinstall everything as punishment for screwing up. We do that every
>> once in a while, anyway, just to clean off the table and start over
>> anew!....(c;
>>
>> Xterm is our favorite video game....If you lose, you lose BIGTIME!

>
> do you even understand how the iphone operates?
>
> ah, you don't deal with files on the hard drive, since iTunes does all
> that automatically!
>
> you just choose the software, music, movies you want and click "sync".
> done!
>
> very easy, but probably too easy for you to understand.


There's nothing like total control of the customer, especially if you
can convince them of how much better off they are. Jobs must have finally
gotten around to reading ideas from the automotive industry of the 50s. I
wonder if he'll read where that led or if he'll just act shocked when it
goes south? My guess is that he'll do what his self-destructive streak
always leads him to do and just talk about how no one other than himself and
a few others really understand the product.

This is all funny as hell to see as the Applevolk are the first to spew
hatred at MS for a far lower level of control over the customer.


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Old June 9th, 2008, 08:51 PM
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In article <Xns9AB89A3EA99CDnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> If there had been new, improvements, I'm sure we would have heard about
> them, instead of the long string of boring SDK demos.....right?


Yeah...who the heck wants SDK demos at a developer's conference? Oh,
wait...


--
--Tim Smith
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