mobile web questions on cost

#1 (**permalink**) November 15th, 2007

I am unclear on what exactly is included in the 5.99 per month T-Mobile
Web. Their web site says you get access to the web and also emails. But
there are no instructions on how to set it up or use it. I signed up
for it, but I didn't get any instructions or acknowledgment about it. I
was able to download the opera minibrowser and install it, and I can
connect to some web sites (slowly). Also, was able to send and receive
an email to my real email account, by trial and error. Does anyone know
how many emails a month are included in this price? Also, how would you
set up "news, weather, sports, and more from leading providers like CNN
and ESPN." as they advertise?

Thanks!

#2 (**permalink**) November 15th, 2007

You need to go to their WAP HomePage located at wap.myvoicestream.com

Not to be confused with the APN which is wap.voicestream.com

On EMAILS. If you are sending EMAILS by SMSthen unless you have a TEXT
message package you will be paying per message at .10 ea/. If you are
actually using the internet with a EMAIL client, then it would be unlimited.

A good way to get your phone or Wireless Device setup for MobileWeb is to
use their Device Configurator

"None" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:291220062217468867%none@none.com...
>I am unclear on what exactly is included in the 5.99 per month T-Mobile
> Web. Their web site says you get access to the web and also emails. But
> there are no instructions on how to set it up or use it. I signed up
> for it, but I didn't get any instructions or acknowledgment about it. I
> was able to download the opera minibrowser and install it, and I can
> connect to some web sites (slowly). Also, was able to send and receive
> an email to my real email account, by trial and error. Does anyone know
> how many emails a month are included in this price? Also, how would you
> set up "news, weather, sports, and more from leading providers like CNN
> and ESPN." as they advertise?
>
> Thanks!

#3 (**permalink**) November 15th, 2007

Thanks, very helpful. I think I have it mostly worked out now. Umm, two
new questions, if you can help:

In the Settings, under Network->Network Setup, there is an item marked
"Speed" which can be set to Slow, Medium, Fast, or Continuous. Mine was
set to Medium. Any reason to leave it there? Don't I want Fast or
Continuous?

Second question. In Google, and Google Maps Mobile, every single time
the apps try to access the network, a dialog pops up asking for
permission. There is no obvious option to let them always access, the
choices are just "Yes, ask every time" or "No, don't allow access". I
also tried to change this by following the instructions at
www.google.maps (or whatever), and still do not see other options, such
as "Always allow". Any way to fix this?

thanks!!!!

In article <DdudndtwJqOGqgvYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@comcast.com>, PDA Man
<pdaman@man.net> wrote:

> You need to go to their WAP HomePage located at wap.myvoicestream.com
>
> Not to be confused with the APN which is wap.voicestream.com
>
> On EMAILS. If you are sending EMAILS by SMSthen unless you have a TEXT
> message package you will be paying per message at .10 ea/. If you are
> actually using the internet with a EMAIL client, then it would be unlimited.
>
> A good way to get your phone or Wireless Device setup for MobileWeb is to
> use their Device Configurator
>
>
> "None" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:291220062217468867%none@none.com...
> >I am unclear on what exactly is included in the 5.99 per month T-Mobile
> > Web. Their web site says you get access to the web and also emails. But
> > there are no instructions on how to set it up or use it. I signed up
> > for it, but I didn't get any instructions or acknowledgment about it. I
> > was able to download the opera minibrowser and install it, and I can
> > connect to some web sites (slowly). Also, was able to send and receive
> > an email to my real email account, by trial and error. Does anyone know
> > how many emails a month are included in this price? Also, how would you
> > set up "news, weather, sports, and more from leading providers like CNN
> > and ESPN." as they advertise?
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>

#4 (**permalink**) November 15th, 2007

As for your "speed" question, that's how often the radio scans for a
signal. Medium is fine. Fast or Continuous will just eat battery life.

On the pop up you should have a 3d option which is "Yes,ask once" but
apparently you don't have that. You'll need to do some SEEM edits to add
that option (see http://xlr8.us/hofo/map.txt for full details):

========

kjava/j2me*.pat files

Permission File for Each Installed Java Application (Games & Apps > menu
> Permissions)

offset 06: determines selected option for Network Related > Data Network
(00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once per app',
04 for 'never ask')
offset 07: determines available options for Network Related > Data
Network (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
unprompted access)
offset 08: determines selected option for Network Related > Messaging
(00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once per app',
04 for 'never ask')
offset 09: determines available options for Network Related > Messaging
(00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask' option, 02 for
'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full unprompted access)
offset 0A: determines selected option for Network Related > App
Auto-Start (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask
once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 0B: determines available options for Network Related > App
Auto-Start (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
unprompted access)
offset 0C: determines selected option for Network Related > Connectivity
Options (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 0D: determines available options for Network Related >
Connectivity Options (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
for full unprompted access)
offset 0E: determines selected option for User Data Related > Multimedia
Recording (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 0F: determines available options for User Data Related >
Multimedia Recording (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
for full unprompted access)
offset 10: determines selected option for User Data Related > User Data
Read Capability (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for
'ask once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 11: determines available options for User Data Related > User
Data Read Capability (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
for full unprompted access)
offset 12: determines selected option for User Data Related > User Data
Write Capability (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for
'ask once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 13: determines available options for User Data Related > User
Data Write Capability (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
for full unprompted access)
offset 14: determines selected option for User Data Related > App Data
Sharing (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
per app', 04 for 'never ask')
offset 15: determines available options for User Data Related > App Data
Sharing (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
unprompted access)

========

None wrote:
> Thanks, very helpful. I think I have it mostly worked out now. Umm,
> two new questions, if you can help:
>
> In the Settings, under Network->Network Setup, there is an item marked
> "Speed" which can be set to Slow, Medium, Fast, or Continuous. Mine
> was set to Medium. Any reason to leave it there? Don't I want Fast or
> Continuous?
>
> Second question. In Google, and Google Maps Mobile, every single time
> the apps try to access the network, a dialog pops up asking for
> permission. There is no obvious option to let them always access, the
> choices are just "Yes, ask every time" or "No, don't allow access". I
> also tried to change this by following the instructions at
> www.google.maps (or whatever), and still do not see other options,
> such as "Always allow". Any way to fix this?
>
> thanks!!!!
>
> In article <DdudndtwJqOGqgvYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@comcast.com>, PDA Man
> <pdaman@man.net> wrote:
>
>> You need to go to their WAP HomePage located at wap.myvoicestream.com
>>
>> Not to be confused with the APN which is wap.voicestream.com
>>
>> On EMAILS. If you are sending EMAILS by SMSthen unless you have a
>> TEXT message package you will be paying per message at .10 ea/. If
>> you are actually using the internet with a EMAIL client, then it
>> would be unlimited.
>>
>> A good way to get your phone or Wireless Device setup for MobileWeb
>> is to use their Device Configurator
>>
>>
>> "None" <none@none.com> wrote in message
>> news:291220062217468867%none@none.com...
>>> I am unclear on what exactly is included in the 5.99 per month
>>> T-Mobile Web. Their web site says you get access to the web and
>>> also emails. But there are no instructions on how to set it up or
>>> use it. I signed up for it, but I didn't get any instructions or
>>> acknowledgment about it. I was able to download the opera
>>> minibrowser and install it, and I can connect to some web sites
>>> (slowly). Also, was able to send and receive an email to my real
>>> email account, by trial and error. Does anyone know how many emails
>>> a month are included in this price? Also, how would you set up
>>> "news, weather, sports, and more from leading providers like CNN
>>> and ESPN." as they advertise?
>>>
>>> Thanks!

#5 (**permalink**) November 15th, 2007

OK, well, good advice, but a bit more complicated than I thought at
first. But I finally figured out how to install Qt and libusb and
Moto4Mac on my Mcintosh, and am starting to try seem edits. I can't
seem to find a real manual or documentation for Moto4Mac, but it looks
pretty obvious. I guess the google programs have a .pat file somewhere
on the phone and I should edit them as SEEMs.
A new question, though. Whenever I disconnect my phone from my mac, the
phone seems to be dead. Nothing works at all, even if I click the
"reboot" button in Moto4Mac (which does reboot the phone, according to
Moto4). The only way to proceed is to remove the phone battery (a real
pain to get the back cover back on) and then turn on the phone. Anyone
know the correct way to disconnnect after seem editing?

Thanks

In article <4598b426$0$20025$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, BruceR
<razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote:

> As for your "speed" question, that's how often the radio scans for a
> signal. Medium is fine. Fast or Continuous will just eat battery life.
>
> On the pop up you should have a 3d option which is "Yes,ask once" but
> apparently you don't have that. You'll need to do some SEEM edits to add
> that option (see http://xlr8.us/hofo/map.txt for full details):
>
> ========
>
> kjava/j2me*.pat files
>
> Permission File for Each Installed Java Application (Games & Apps > menu
> > Permissions)
>
> offset 06: determines selected option for Network Related > Data Network
> (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once per app',
> 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 07: determines available options for Network Related > Data
> Network (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
> option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
> unprompted access)
> offset 08: determines selected option for Network Related > Messaging
> (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once per app',
> 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 09: determines available options for Network Related > Messaging
> (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask' option, 02 for
> 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full unprompted access)
> offset 0A: determines selected option for Network Related > App
> Auto-Start (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask
> once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 0B: determines available options for Network Related > App
> Auto-Start (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
> option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
> unprompted access)
> offset 0C: determines selected option for Network Related > Connectivity
> Options (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
> per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 0D: determines available options for Network Related >
> Connectivity Options (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
> 'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
> for full unprompted access)
> offset 0E: determines selected option for User Data Related > Multimedia
> Recording (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
> per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 0F: determines available options for User Data Related >
> Multimedia Recording (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
> 'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
> for full unprompted access)
> offset 10: determines selected option for User Data Related > User Data
> Read Capability (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for
> 'ask once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 11: determines available options for User Data Related > User
> Data Read Capability (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
> 'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
> for full unprompted access)
> offset 12: determines selected option for User Data Related > User Data
> Write Capability (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for
> 'ask once per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 13: determines available options for User Data Related > User
> Data Write Capability (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for
> 'always ask' option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04
> for full unprompted access)
> offset 14: determines selected option for User Data Related > App Data
> Sharing (00 for 'access denied', 01 for 'always ask', 02 for 'ask once
> per app', 04 for 'never ask')
> offset 15: determines available options for User Data Related > App Data
> Sharing (00 for no access/item not displayed, 01 for 'always ask'
> option, 02 for 'ask once per app', 03 for 'never ask', 04 for full
> unprompted access)
>
> ========
>
>
> None wrote:
> > Thanks, very helpful. I think I have it mostly worked out now. Umm,
> > two new questions, if you can help:
> >
> > In the Settings, under Network->Network Setup, there is an item marked
> > "Speed" which can be set to Slow, Medium, Fast, or Continuous. Mine
> > was set to Medium. Any reason to leave it there? Don't I want Fast or
> > Continuous?
> >
> > Second question. In Google, and Google Maps Mobile, every single time
> > the apps try to access the network, a dialog pops up asking for
> > permission. There is no obvious option to let them always access, the
> > choices are just "Yes, ask every time" or "No, don't allow access". I
> > also tried to change this by following the instructions at
> > www.google.maps (or whatever), and still do not see other options,
> > such as "Always allow". Any way to fix this?
> >
> > thanks!!!!
> >
> > In article <DdudndtwJqOGqgvYnZ2dnUVZ_tqnnZ2d@comcast.com>, PDA Man
> > <pdaman@man.net> wrote:
> >
> >> You need to go to their WAP HomePage located at wap.myvoicestream.com
> >>
> >> Not to be confused with the APN which is wap.voicestream.com
> >>
> >> On EMAILS. If you are sending EMAILS by SMSthen unless you have a
> >> TEXT message package you will be paying per message at .10 ea/. If
> >> you are actually using the internet with a EMAIL client, then it
> >> would be unlimited.
> >>
> >> A good way to get your phone or Wireless Device setup for MobileWeb
> >> is to use their Device Configurator
> >>
> >>
> >> "None" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> >> news:291220062217468867%none@none.com...
> >>> I am unclear on what exactly is included in the 5.99 per month
> >>> T-Mobile Web. Their web site says you get access to the web and
> >>> also emails. But there are no instructions on how to set it up or
> >>> use it. I signed up for it, but I didn't get any instructions or
> >>> acknowledgment about it. I was able to download the opera
> >>> minibrowser and install it, and I can connect to some web sites
> >>> (slowly). Also, was able to send and receive an email to my real
> >>> email account, by trial and error. Does anyone know how many emails
> >>> a month are included in this price? Also, how would you set up
> >>> "news, weather, sports, and more from leading providers like CNN
> >>> and ESPN." as they advertise?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
>
>