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Old November 24th, 2007
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In article <znu-1238EE.19022117112007@news.individual.net>,
ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:

> In article <ddfr-E1960A.01084716112007@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> David Friedman <ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
>
> > In article
> > <colalovesosx-219915.20522515112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
> > Oxford <colalovesosx@supersmart.com> wrote:
> >
> > > mainly mac cities have open wireless pretty much everywhere since you
> > > can't break into macs / osx.
> > >

> >
> > So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live not
> > far from Cupertino.
> >
> > Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere." Could
> > you give an example of such a place?

>
> Manhattan comes pretty close. Not through any organized scheme (though
> there is some municipal WiFi in parks and a few other places), but
> simply as a result of density. Walking around with an iPhone makes one
> just aware of how many wireless networks are around. On any random
> street corner there will be three or five access points, one or two of
> which will generally be open.


I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
10 at a time.

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Old November 24th, 2007
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Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in
news:labolide-EEFFC3.12050924112007@news.giganews.com:

> In article <znu-1238EE.19022117112007@news.individual.net>,
> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <ddfr-E1960A.01084716112007@news.isp.giganews.com>,
>> David Friedman <ddfr@daviddfriedman.nopsam.com> wrote:
>>
>> > In article
>> > <colalovesosx-219915.20522515112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
>> > Oxford <colalovesosx@supersmart.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > mainly mac cities have open wireless pretty much everywhere since
>> > > you can't break into macs / osx.
>> > >
>> >
>> > So far as I know, there aren't any "mainly mac cities." And I live
>> > not far from Cupertino.
>> >
>> > Nor have I ever observed "open wireless pretty much everywhere."
>> > Could you give an example of such a place?

>>
>> Manhattan comes pretty close. Not through any organized scheme
>> (though there is some municipal WiFi in parks and a few other
>> places), but simply as a result of density. Walking around with an
>> iPhone makes one just aware of how many wireless networks are around.
>> On any random street corner there will be three or five access
>> points, one or two of which will generally be open.

>
> I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
> 10 at a time.
>


Great news for the .001% of the US population that would travel to Tokyo
enough to find this to be an advantage. For the rest of us.....<yawn>.
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Old November 25th, 2007
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At 24 Nov 2007 12:05:09 -0800 Kurt wrote:

> I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
> 10 at a time.


And if there was a VoIP client available for it, you could've actually
made phone calls on it! ;-)


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Old November 25th, 2007
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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
news:_072j.14$6U6.3@fe089.usenetserver.com...
> At 24 Nov 2007 12:05:09 -0800 Kurt wrote:
>
>> I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
>> 10 at a time.

>
> And if there was a VoIP client available for it, you could've actually
> made phone calls on it! ;-)
>
>


He wont get one unless Lord Jobs decides he can.

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In news:sZednfSjMcqxYtXanZ2dnUVZ_tqtnZ2d@comcast.com,
Titus Pullo <null@unix.site> typed:
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
> news:_072j.14$6U6.3@fe089.usenetserver.com...
>> At 24 Nov 2007 12:05:09 -0800 Kurt wrote:
>>
>>> I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
>>> 10 at a time.

>>
>> And if there was a VoIP client available for it, you could've actually
>> made phone calls on it! ;-)
>>
>>

>
> He wont get one unless Lord Jobs decides he can.



That probably will not happen as long as the iPhone is tied to cell phone
service providers who give a percentage of the monthly service charge to
Apple.



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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Kurt wrote:
> I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
> 10 at a time.


How many of those WiFi networks (outside of your gaijin hotel) were open?

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In article <alpine.OSX.0.99999.0711242330150.14460@pangtzu.pa nda.com>,
Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Kurt wrote:
> > I had my iPhone this week around Tokyo. WiFi was everywhere, sometimes
> > 10 at a time.

>
> How many of those WiFi networks (outside of your gaijin hotel) were open?
>
> -- Mark --
>

I hang with the Japanese. Was out in the countryside, too. Quite a few
free ones, and many were large networks that you could sign up by CC for
at airport for 500 yen a day ($4.75, or so).
I found one called Freeport at a couple road side rest stops.

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Kurt wrote:
> I hang with the Japanese. Was out in the countryside, too. Quite a few
> free ones, and many were large networks that you could sign up by CC for
> at airport for 500 yen a day ($4.75, or so).
> I found one called Freeport at a couple road side rest stops.


Free, or pay? I find lots of pay networks in Japan, but not many free
open ones other than the occasional residential AP that the owner didn't
know enough to secure.

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In article
<alpine.WNT.0.99999.0711271306150.6024@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washignton.EDU>,
Mark Crispin <MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007, Kurt wrote:
> > I hang with the Japanese. Was out in the countryside, too. Quite a few
> > free ones, and many were large networks that you could sign up by CC for
> > at airport for 500 yen a day ($4.75, or so).
> > I found one called Freeport at a couple road side rest stops.

>
> Free, or pay? I find lots of pay networks in Japan, but not many free
> open ones other than the occasional residential AP that the owner didn't
> know enough to secure.
>

Quite a few free ones. As it turns out all the major highway rest stops
have free ones. Found a few driving around in the city.

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