AT&T flings network wide open- don't have to sign a contract

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7dda8346-c22c-4500-
b656-7dc4a864129a@j44g2000hsj.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T for years kept quiet the fact that wireless customers had
the
> option of using devices and applications other than those
offered by
> AT&T. But now salespeople in AT&T phone stores will make sure
that
> consumers "know all their options" before making a final
purchase.
>

Same ol' sleazy SELLphone carriers....

Next thing you know they'll finally admit you CAN put more than
one phone on a number, something they've been lying to us for
years about.

Larry
--
It's the standing in front of them KNOWING he's lying through his
teeth to you that pisses me off.

In article <Xns9A01603541E57noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Same ol' sleazy SELLphone carriers....

Do you actually own, pay for, and use a device that allows you to have
voice communication over one of the established cellular telephone
networks?

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9A01603541E57noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Same ol' sleazy SELLphone carriers....
>
> Do you actually own, pay for, and use a device that allows you to have
> voice communication over one of the established cellular telephone
> networks?
>

Larry lies about everything he says. Don't believe a word of it

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
BFEE6B.10003409122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> Do you actually own, pay for, and use a device that allows you to
have
> voice communication over one of the established cellular
telephone
> networks?
>
>
>

Sure. Do you? What a stupid question....

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

At 09 Dec 2007 14:25:48 +0000 Larry wrote:

> Same ol' sleazy SELLphone carriers....
>
> Next thing you know they'll finally admit you CAN put more than
> one phone on a number, something they've been lying to us for
> years about.


While TECHNICALLY you always could, the current billing and authorization
systems used by the major carriers simply don't allow for it, so they're
telling a half-truth- they can't do it because it's not worth it to them to
overhaul their systems to allow it. Using a two-phone family plan with
forwarding set from one to the other is a cheap way to accomplish the same
thing.

In article <Xns9A01A3693FE41noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > Do you actually own, pay for, and use a device that allows you to
> have
> > voice communication over one of the established cellular
> telephone
> > networks?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Sure. Do you? What a stupid question....

No, it's not. Not the way you keep talking about "SELLphones". I'd
think that you simply stay out of the whole thing that you disparage so
readily and constantly.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
8F70E1.18034109122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> No, it's not. Not the way you keep talking about "SELLphones".
I'd
> think that you simply stay out of the whole thing that you
disparage so
> readily and constantly.
>
>
>

SELLphone more accurately describes the devices' functions, to
SELL you some "function" the phone already had in it before the
SELLphone carrier locked it out in hopes of SELLing it back to
you.

Wouldn't you agree?

Case in point....We all now have GPS receivers built into our
phones so the Illuminati's government bureaucrats can track us
more accurately, even if we don't make a call to 911, the cover
story.

Can you see your GPS' most basic data, latitude and longitude on
your SELLphone's display? Why not? You already paid for that
receiver and should be able to at least read its basic output,
right? No, not in the eyes of the SELLphone company. You need
to pay us $10/month to have access to YOUR receiver's data.

What a pure line of bullshit! SELLphone didn't provide the data,
the US Taxpayers did! The phone's MINE...as pointed out to me
every time it stops working! Why can't I use MY phone's GPS
receiver....FOR FREE?! Why doesn't my phone's GPS receiver
Bluetooth pair with my computer so IT can use MY GPS receiver's
data? I had to buy ANOTHER GPS receiver for that. Why??

Gee, Elmo, I'm sorry if my pointing these things the assholes at
SELLphone companies do to their paying customers like this. But,
alas, I don't think I'm the only one this pisses off, am I?

If you don't like it.....**** OFF!

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:9i_6j.7264$061.5664@fe117.usenetserver.com:

> At 09 Dec 2007 14:25:48 +0000 Larry wrote:
>
>> Same ol' sleazy SELLphone carriers....
>>
>> Next thing you know they'll finally admit you CAN put more
than
>> one phone on a number, something they've been lying to us for
>> years about.
>
>
> While TECHNICALLY you always could, the current billing and
> authorization systems used by the major carriers simply don't
allow
> for it, so they're telling a half-truth- they can't do it
because it's
> not worth it to them to overhaul their systems to allow it.
Using a
> two-phone family plan with forwarding set from one to the other
is a
> cheap way to accomplish the same thing.

Nonsense. It's not done to SELL you more SELLphone
product...another number, another account, another charge.

The phones aren't tied to your cell number. They each have a MAC
address, just like your Ethernet card. They can each be
addressed, all at once, unless we can force you to pay more
money.

Larry
--
Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
you're downloads threaten their networks......
.....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v

In article <Xns9A01C1FE4BE76noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> SELLphone more accurately describes the devices' functions, to
> SELL you some "function" the phone already had in it before the
> SELLphone carrier locked it out in hopes of SELLing it back to
> you.
>
> Wouldn't you agree?

Only Verizon. Not so with anything Cingular/AT&T has ever sold.

And as has been pointed out here many times recently, the GSM network
has always been able to take any phone that was designed by its
manufacturer for the GSM network. Even if the provider doesn't offer
that phone, if you can get it, you can use it--and all of its functions.

Not so with Verizon.

So it looks like you have massive tunnel vision with respect to being a
Verizon customer.


> Gee, Elmo, I'm sorry if my pointing these things the assholes at
> SELLphone companies do to their paying customers like this. But,
> alas, I don't think I'm the only one this pisses off, am I?
>
> If you don't like it.....**** OFF!

Looks like you're ranting out of ignorance. Why don't you go with a GSM
provider and get whatever phone and functionality you desire and plug
your SIM card into it, without ever involving AT&T?

If all you know is the Verizon way, and if all you talk about is the
Verizon way, then **** OFF yourself and go pollute the Verizon newsgroup
with your crap. T-Mobile and AT&T don't give a shit.

That's right--the rest of us have had all the nice things you've been
ranting about not having, and we've had them forever. That you choose
to be ignorant about that, is YOUR problem. So **** OFF.

And take your "SELLular" crap with you. Everybody's tired of seeing
your ignorant rants.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
9193EB.19542409122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

> Only Verizon. Not so with anything Cingular/AT&T has ever
sold.
>
>

Is that why iPhones:

Don't act like USB hard drives so you can copy songs, videos,
pictures to them and PLAY THEM because they're YOURS?

Don't allow external software to run on them so we can sell you
some web-based subscription crapware that STILL won't let you run
the songs, videos and pictures you finally got copied to them?

Don't have common browser plugins used to STREAM video to
computers over the internet for free?

What you say may have been true before iPhone....but no more.
iPhone prevents bandwidth usage on ATT, and is hobbled to do so.



Larry
--
Merry Christmas!
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