Judge Immediately Bans Sale of Qualcomm W-CDMA Chips

SMS wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> SMS wrote:
>>
>>> digi wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 6, 2:58 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ness-Net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a fundamental flaw in your premise.
>>>>>> The second that a 3G iPhone hits the market, EVERY EDGE iPhone
>>>>>> immediately depreciates dramatically.
>>>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> To me, the most glaring problem with the iPhone is that you can't
>>> legally use it while driving in three states (NY, NJ, & CT), and
>>> starting July 1, 2008 add CA and WA to the list. Many Asian and
>>> European countries also don't allow its use while driving.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> At least in New Jersey the law applies to ANY hand held phone!
>
>
> Right, but the iPhone can't be used without holding it to key in the
> phone number. You can receive calls while driving, but not make them, at
> least not legally in the states that don't allow holding the handset
> while driving.
>
> Every other current phone on the market included voice dialing (at least
> I could not find a single current model other than the iPhone that
> doesn't have it). Entering a number while driving, having to take your
> eyes off the road to concentrate on the phone, is very dangerous, and
> it's great that more states are beginning to ban it.
>
> I think that Apple will eventually come up with a software upgrade for
> voice dialing, or at least include it on the next revision of the iPhone.
>
>> A lot of people seem to have responded by getting a "Bluetooth" device
>> to hang in their ear! A little silly looking and probably still not a
>> good idea while driving. . . . Not that it's going to stop some people
>
>
> It's a little better. While conversing while driving is distracting, the
> most distracting part of the call is having to dial the number if you
> aren't voice name dialing or voice digit dialing.

Speach recognition (voice command, voice dialing) is a great idea.
Making it work, work reliably, and making it work for everyone, seems to
be beyond the capabilties of some cell phone manufacturers! My Motorola
RAZR V3m is supposed to accept voice commands and do voice dialing.
Maybe it does for some people but it doesn't work for me. I can say
"check status" twenty or thirty times before the phone finally
recognizes it. In fact, the command "check status", when I say it,
frequently results in my phone starting to dial my next door neighbor!!!

YMMV.

-= Hawk =- <Hawk@thispartisbogus.cfl.rr.com> wrote in
news:jap5o3188hljms1odsgqvptfk0nm724c6i@news-server:

> Why? Because you're trying to foist off some moronic catchphrase you
> think is cute and clever but in all honesty makes you look even more
> like an imbecile.
>
>
>

First off, you must understand I don't give a shit if you like it or
not.....

So, your choice is to simply killfile me, putting you out of your misery.

As Billy Connoly puts it, "**** Off!"....(c;

They are SELLphones. If they weren't, they would be hobbled, disabled and
the smartphones would be smartphones, actually running programs....like
your laptop does, without the company bureaucrats' permissions.

The term is very accurate. Ask any Verizon customer.

Larry
--
As the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal
Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value!

In article <Xns9A1F62A747D1noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> First off, you must understand I don't give a shit if you like it or
> not.....

Which is why you live in these newsgroups, right?

In article <Xns9A1F62A747D1noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> They are SELLphones. If they weren't, they would be hobbled, disabled and
> the smartphones would be smartphones, actually running programs....like
> your laptop does, without the company bureaucrats' permissions.
>
> The term is very accurate. Ask any Verizon customer.

Very INaccurate. Ask any AT&T, T-Mobile, or Sprint customer.

When will you acknowledge that your VERY LIMITED experience in the world
has nothing to do with reality?

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On 2008-01-08, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> So, your choice is to simply killfile me, putting you out of your misery.
> As Billy Connoly puts it, "**** Off!"....(c;

One thing you haven't addressed is that you use some of the same services that,
when someone else talks about using them, you make them sound like dumbasses.

You can't have it both ways.

> The term is very accurate. Ask any Verizon customer.

As pointed out to you countless times, Verizon is the worst in this respect
and is not representative of the entire industry.


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On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 05:30:33 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> scribbled:

>-= Hawk =- <Hawk@thispartisbogus.cfl.rr.com> wrote in
>news:jap5o3188hljms1odsgqvptfk0nm724c6i@news-server:
>
>> Why? Because you're trying to foist off some moronic catchphrase you
>> think is cute and clever but in all honesty makes you look even more
>> like an imbecile.
>>
>>
>>
>
>First off, you must understand I don't give a shit if you like it or
>not.....

If you don't give a shit what keeps you coming back to my posts?

>So, your choice is to simply killfile me, putting you out of your misery.

Or I could keep making fun of you and see what funny dances you'll do.

>As Billy Connoly puts it, "**** Off!"....(c;
>
>They are SELLphones. If they weren't, they would be hobbled, disabled and

Only in your pea sized brain.

>the smartphones would be smartphones, actually running programs....like
>your laptop does, without the company bureaucrats' permissions.

If everything were the way it should be across the planet there'd still
be some loser like you with something to whine about or some agenda he
thinks other people give a shit for.

>The term is very accurate. Ask any Verizon customer.

It, as I said, makes you look like a moron.

Now, I'm bored, polka for me, ****er.

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
> Speach recognition (voice command, voice dialing) is a great idea.
> Making it work, work reliably, and making it work for everyone, seems to
> be beyond the capabilties of some cell phone manufacturers! My Motorola
> RAZR V3m is supposed to accept voice commands and do voice dialing.
> Maybe it does for some people but it doesn't work for me. I can say
> "check status" twenty or thirty times before the phone finally
> recognizes it. In fact, the command "check status", when I say it,
> frequently results in my phone starting to dial my next door neighbor!!!

Try speaking in a higher pitch.

--
"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state
itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of
property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who
produce wealth. Communism is the goal." -- Roger Baldwin, founder, ACLU

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

<snip>

> Speach recognition (voice command, voice dialing) is a great idea.
> Making it work, work reliably, and making it work for everyone, seems to
> be beyond the capabilties of some cell phone manufacturers! My Motorola
> RAZR V3m is supposed to accept voice commands and do voice dialing.
> Maybe it does for some people but it doesn't work for me. I can say
> "check status" twenty or thirty times before the phone finally
> recognizes it. In fact, the command "check status", when I say it,
> frequently results in my phone starting to dial my next door neighbor!!!

Yeah, sometimes the voice recognition works perfectly on my V325i,
sometimes I get so frustrated with it than when it says "Say a Command"
I respond with "you suck." What does work reliably is "digit dial" and
"redial." Sometimes when I say "name dial" it redials. Sometimes when it
recognizes the name and there are multiple phone numbers and it says
"which number?" it doesn't recognize the answer and comes back with "no
match found." The older voice-dialing system which required that you
train the phone with the name and your voice worked much better than the
current Motorola technology.

I think that Apple probably wanted voice-dialing on the iPhone but
either a) couldn't find someone to license the firmware to them, b)
tried to do it themselves but couldn't get it working in time for the
iPhone release, or c) ran into some legal issues with patents on the
technology. I can't imagine that they won't have it in the next revision.

SMS wrote:
> Yeah, sometimes the voice recognition works perfectly on my V325i,
> sometimes I get so frustrated with it than when it says "Say a Command"
> I respond with "you suck." What does work reliably is "digit dial" and
> "redial." Sometimes when I say "name dial" it redials.

Try just "name".

> Sometimes when it
> recognizes the name and there are multiple phone numbers and it says
> "which number?" it doesn't recognize the answer and comes back with "no
> match found."

I have never gotten that. My V710 is even smart enough to recognize "cell"
to mean "mobile".

> The older voice-dialing system which required that you
> train the phone with the name and your voice worked much better than the
> current Motorola technology.
>
> I think that Apple probably wanted voice-dialing on the iPhone but
> either a) couldn't find someone to license the firmware to them, b)
> tried to do it themselves but couldn't get it working in time for the
> iPhone release, or c) ran into some legal issues with patents on the
> technology. I can't imagine that they won't have it in the next revision.

Or (d) remembers a certain Dilbert cartoon about handwriting recognition
on the Newton that included the words "weave me a cone you cupid bat".

--
"I am for socialism, disarmament and ultimately for abolishing the state
itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of
property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who
produce wealth. Communism is the goal." -- Roger Baldwin, founder, ACLU

clifto wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>>Speach recognition (voice command, voice dialing) is a great idea.
>>Making it work, work reliably, and making it work for everyone, seems to
>>be beyond the capabilties of some cell phone manufacturers! My Motorola
>>RAZR V3m is supposed to accept voice commands and do voice dialing.
>>Maybe it does for some people but it doesn't work for me. I can say
>>"check status" twenty or thirty times before the phone finally
>>recognizes it. In fact, the command "check status", when I say it,
>>frequently results in my phone starting to dial my next door neighbor!!!
>
>
> Try speaking in a higher pitch.
>

My vocal range is one note short of an octave! I don't have a whole lot
of choice!