Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:56:03 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc3ed0$0$36411$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>4phun wrote:
>> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
>> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>>
>> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
>> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
>> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
>> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
>> 21.
>>
>> from T-Mobile
>>
>> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
>It's unlimited voice and messaging, not voice and data. You need to
>understand the difference.
>
>T-Mobile offers unlimited "voice and messaging" not data. Since they
>don't have a data network in the U.S., they don't have to worry about
>their network being overwhelmed.

T-Mobile most certainly does have a data network in the USA.

>Sprint is now the only carrier without an unlimited plan.

Sprint actually has an unlimited plan in trial.

>If they really
>want to trump the competition then they could offer a true unlimited
>voice _and_ data plan. Unlikely since the reason AT&T and Verizon have
>capped their data plans is because the 3G networks don't have sufficient
>capacity for such plans.

Total nonsense.

>At $60/month for true unlimited data, a lot of
>DSL users might be tempted to use 3G as their primary Internet connection.

Such abuse is the reason for capping.

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4phun wrote:
> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>
> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
> 21.
>
> from T-Mobile
>
> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.

Analysts say Sprint will offer unlimited voice and messaging for between
$60 and $80 in the next few weeks. If Sprint went one further, and
offered unlimited voice and (relatively) unlimited 3G data for $100,
that would really shake things up. What does Sprint have to lose at this
point?

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:46:50 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc58c6$0$36374$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>4phun wrote:
>> T-Mobile Offers Unlimited Plan, Too
>> Phone Scoop posted Today, 4:35 PM by Eric M. Zeman
>>
>> Today T-Mobile also announced that it will offer subscribers an
>> unlimited plan for $99 per month. T-Mobile's offering is the only plan
>> announced today that includes both voice and messaging services at the
>> $99 price point. The new plan will be available beginning February
>> 21.
>>
>> from T-Mobile
>>
>> The GSM deal is better than Verizon's.
>
>Analysts say Sprint will offer unlimited voice and messaging for between
>$60 and $80 in the next few weeks.

Citation? Oh wait ... you almost never have any ... you mostly just
make stuff up.

>If Sprint went one further, and
>offered unlimited voice and (relatively) unlimited 3G data for $100,
>that would really shake things up. What does Sprint have to lose at this
>point?

It's ass. That would make no sense at all.

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Todd H. wrote:

> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
> over the headline:
>
> http://www.news.com/Sprint-expected-...l?tag=nefd.top

Actually I saw the "$60-80" from
"http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/20/ap4676170.html"

It's always amusing to see "he who must not be named" demanding
citations for widely disseminated news stories, while at the same time
never providing citations for any of the claims he makes up, and never
providing any factual basis for disputing any of the citations that
others make.

He's never provided a citation for extended GSM, despite repeated requests.

He's never provided a citation disputing the accuracy of the network
quality surveys, despite repeated requests.

He's never provided a citation disputing the USA Today story that Apple
approached Verizon with the iPhone prior to going to Cingular/AT&T,
despite repeated requests.

He complains that people treat him badly, but if he would change his
behavior he would be forgiven and perhaps he could make some useful
contributions.

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:71b1cb15-643f-4314-b08a-
a64c395d580c@b29g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
>
>

Alltel's better than both of them.
700 mins, Unlimited M2M/N-W with the toys $40
UNLIMITED smartphone data $10

Total w/o taxes $50

700 min regional phone plan above $40
UNLIMITED Tethered to computer via
Bluetooth or USB $25

Total to your computer w/o VZW BS $65/mo

Streaming and gaming to the N800 Linux tablet ad nauseum doesn't seem to
bother them at all.... Their Megabyte counter on my bill maxes out at
99,999 Megabytes every month and noone complains....(c;

Alltel's footprint is huge in comparison.

If you get lots of mins on a regional phone plan, you can ADD nationwide
minutes for travel on vacation outside your area. $10 buys 100 minutes
with a 611 call before you leave or anytime during your vacation. You
don't have to pay roaming charges outside your area, and you don't have to
pay for nationwide coverage you rarely use at double the price the other
carriers charge.

My total bill with all the tax loads and charges is about $74/mo for great
phone coverage from MD to FL along the coast, NC/SC complete and into the
surrounding states of GA/TN/VA before I need national
coverage.....including really unlimited internet to my Linux tablet.

$100 my ass.....(c;

In article <Xns9A4A8F17BD904noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Alltel's footprint is huge in comparison.

Really.

They don't exist here.

Larry, the world is much larger than the road from your house to the
Waffle House.

Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:ph9or3padu6evofoc07uviujc3i5setfgn@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:58:43 -0800 (PST), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Wrong John, a discussion by analysists of yesterday's news mentioned
>>that Verizon's data is now tightly capped at one fo two levels. 50MB
>>or 5GB at two different price points. You do not get the 5GB at the
>>$99 price level!
>>
>>T-Mo is a much bigger bang for the dollar than Verizon at $99!
>
> Verizon's Data service continues to be WAY OVERPRICED! 50MB for
> $39.99...you have to be kidding!
>

Alltel - 1X to smartphones $10/mo extra
EVDO to tethered computers $25/mo extra

The bills all say MEGABYTES 99,999 when they come...too funny.

I'm watching XRM-TV videos on it, now:
http://75.126.100.178:8000/xrm-tv.nsv?refid=1
It even plays rolling down the highway at...er, ah....65.

If you buy 1X for your smartphone, it still tethers over BT or USB to your
computer, but you only get 1X speed for $10 if you're cheap...(c; Still no
MB limits...just less MBs/day...

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:13 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <47bc71b5$0$36410$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Todd H. wrote:
>
>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>> over the headline:
>>
>> http://www.news.com/Sprint-expected-...l?tag=nefd.top
>
>Actually I saw the "$60-80" from
>"http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/02/20/ap4676170.html"
>
>It's always amusing to see "he who must not be named" demanding
>citations for widely disseminated news stories, while at the same time
>never providing citations for any of the claims he makes up, and never
>providing any factual basis for disputing any of the citations that
>others make.

Total nonsense.

>He's never provided a citation for extended GSM, despite repeated requests.

Actually several of them.

>He's never provided a citation disputing the accuracy of the network
>quality surveys, despite repeated requests.

Actually several of them.

>He's never provided a citation disputing the USA Today story that Apple
>approached Verizon with the iPhone prior to going to Cingular/AT&T,
>despite repeated requests.

There's no need to refute spin solely from Verizon.
The other companies don't comment.

>He complains that people treat him badly, but if he would change his
>behavior he would be forgiven and perhaps he could make some useful
>contributions.

Total nonsense.

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Todd H. wrote:
> John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:19:47 -0600, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote in
>> <84d4qrfq2k@news.giganews.com>:
>>
>>> As for a cite, anyone who visited news.cnet.com today would've tripped
>>> over the headline:
>> Thanks for the insult.
>
> It wasn't meant as an insult, but rather criticism of criticism.
> Why be a pain in the ass over a cite when a) you rarely give them
> yourself, and b) one for this was exceedingly easy to find?"

For such a widely publicized and current news item I didn't see the need
to include a link, but "he who must not be named" isn't happy unless he
has something to complain about. Yet he rarely includes any citations on
anything he posts because when you make up stuff out of thin air it's
tough to find any citations to back you up.


BTW, watch out for the latest crap from "he who must not be named,"
which is changing the newsgroups to where follow-up posts are directed
to include alt.cellular.cingular, a newsgroup for which there is no
corresponding carrier, while removing newsgroups that are actually
relevant. Pathetic and sad.

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
On 2008-02-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> 700 mins, Unlimited M2M/N-W with the toys $40
> UNLIMITED smartphone data $10

That's great for people who use less than 700 minutes every month.

Some people need voice minutes. That plan would make no sense for me,
for example. I use 750-950, average, per month.






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