Unlimited voice AND data for only $99 come to a GSM network starting2/21/08

clifto wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>> People complain about Verizon's prices for voice and for data, but
>> Verizon still signs up the most new retail contract customers, by a
>> large margin, every quarter. Obviously a lot of customers are willing to
>> pay a slightly higher price for the higher quality.
>
> "Slightly", he says.

If you compare the plan minutes at different price points, using one of
the comparison engines for wireless, the prices for peak minutes of
voice are very comparable at AT&T, Sprint, & Verizon. T-Mobile gives you
a lot more peak minutes for the price. See
"http://www.myrateplan.com/wireless_plans/". With Sprint you can get
SERO rates which don't show up of course in the plan comparisons.

For unlimited, T-Mobile is cheaper because it includes text messaging,
though the savvy consumer that wanted unlimited would port their number
to PagePlus and get unlimited on the Verizon network for significantly
less, around $75, versus what will be about $115 after taxes and fees on
Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.

For data, Verizon is comparable to AT&T, even though they have a much
larger 3G network. Sprint is cheaper, if they cover the places you
expect to need 3G.

> For unlimited, T-Mobile is cheaper because it includes text messaging,
> though the savvy consumer that wanted unlimited would port their
> number to PagePlus and get unlimited on the Verizon network for
> significantly less, around $75, versus what will be about $115 after
> taxes and fees on Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.

The $75. PagePlus plan is not unlimited.

M.L. wrote:
>> For unlimited, T-Mobile is cheaper because it includes text messaging,
>> though the savvy consumer that wanted unlimited would port their
>> number to PagePlus and get unlimited on the Verizon network for
>> significantly less, around $75, versus what will be about $115 after
>> taxes and fees on Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.
>
> The $75. PagePlus plan is not unlimited.

It's unlimited on Verizon's network. Close enough.

"http://pagepluscellular.com/Plans/Unlimited%20Voice.aspx"

It's actually around $69 (for a 30 day month), since you can buy the $80
PagePlus card for around $74. $2.49*30*74/80.

I'm sure that the total cost of the $99 unlimited deals are closer to
$115 once all the taxes and fees are added.

"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
news:47C43D29.4050508@comcast.net:

> If you are a corporation and if you have several dozen or several
> hundred cell phones, you have a great deal of bargaining power!
>
>

You get an even better deal if you have a plot of pasture they wanna put
a sellphone tower on.....

Larry wrote:
> "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:47C43D29.4050508@comcast.net:
>
>> If you are a corporation and if you have several dozen or several
>> hundred cell phones, you have a great deal of bargaining power!
>>
>>
>
> You get an even better deal if you have a plot of pasture they wanna put
> a sellphone tower on.....

Or put up your own tower and lease it back to the celltelcos...

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:47c45c16$0$36372
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> versus what will be about $115 after taxes and fees on
> Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.
>

......it just makes my heart flutter....$1,380/year.

At THIS price point, it oughta come with a hooker!

Seems kinda stupid, don't it?

In article <Xns9A50C7AD572BAnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > versus what will be about $115 after taxes and fees on
> > Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.
> >
>
> .....it just makes my heart flutter....$1,380/year.
>
> At THIS price point, it oughta come with a hooker!

says Larry, who's looking for ANY woman to visit him.

I guess the eight year old girls at the mall aren't doing it for him
anymore.

In article <47c4752a$0$36329$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > The $75. PagePlus plan is not unlimited.
>
> It's unlimited on Verizon's network. Close enough.
>
> "http://pagepluscellular.com/Plans/Unlimited%20Voice.aspx"
>
> It's actually around $69 (for a 30 day month), since you can buy the $80
> PagePlus card for around $74. $2.49*30*74/80.

And then it's only $1.99/day in many states as well.

At 26 Feb 2008 10:39:05 -0800 SMS wrote:

> If you compare the plan minutes at different price points, using one of
> the comparison engines for wireless, the prices for peak minutes of
> voice are very comparable at AT&T, Sprint, & Verizon.


Here we go again... That's a loaded comparison, since Sprint's nights
start 2 hours earlier, and AT&T's minutes rollover, both of which give more
effective minutes than the comparable number from Verizon, but of course,
that's Verizon's intent- to make us believe they offer and equal number of
minutes for the dollar.


> T-Mobile gives you a lot more peak minutes for the price.
> See "http://www.myrateplan.com/wireless_plans/". With Sprint you can
> get SERO rates which don't show up of course in the plan comparisons.


To be fair to other carriers, however, T-Mo doesn't include M2M in their
non-family plans. (Arguably, since they're the smallest carrier of the four,
more peak minutes is better than free M2M as your friends and family
members are less likely to also be T-Mo subscribers!)


> For unlimited, T-Mobile is cheaper because it includes text messaging,
> though the savvy consumer that wanted unlimited would port their
> number to PagePlus and get unlimited on the Verizon network for
> significantly less, around $75, versus what will be about $115 after
> taxes and fees on Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.


True, unless they want data. An unlimted tal, text and data plan on T-Mo
would be $106. ($120 on PDAs/Blackberries.)

> For data, Verizon is comparable to AT&T, even though they have a
> much larger 3G network.

PDA data on Verizon is $40, vs. $30 on AT&T.

> Sprint is cheaper, if they cover the places you expect to need 3G.

You're assuming a separate data account with a PC card, rather than a
tetherable-data add-on.

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 26 Feb 2008 10:39:05 -0800 SMS wrote:
>
>> If you compare the plan minutes at different price points, using one of
>> the comparison engines for wireless, the prices for peak minutes of
>> voice are very comparable at AT&T, Sprint, & Verizon.
>
>
> Here we go again... That's a loaded comparison, since Sprint's nights
> start 2 hours earlier, and AT&T's minutes rollover, both of which give more
> effective minutes than the comparable number from Verizon, but of course,
> that's Verizon's intent- to make us believe they offer and equal number of
> minutes for the dollar.

Actually their intent is to get users to buy a larger plan once they get
dinged with overages because of the worse off-peak.

AT&T's rollover does not give you more effective minutes. It's the same
average number of minutes each month. If you purchase a plan too large
for you then you end up racking up massive numbers of rollover minutes,
if you purchase a plan too small for you then you still get dinged with
overages. Rollover is great if you have occasional peaks in usage at
some times of year.

>> For unlimited, T-Mobile is cheaper because it includes text messaging,
>> though the savvy consumer that wanted unlimited would port their
>> number to PagePlus and get unlimited on the Verizon network for
>> significantly less, around $75, versus what will be about $115 after
>> taxes and fees on Verizon or AT&T or T-Mobile.
>
>
> True, unless they want data. An unlimted tal, text and data plan on T-Mo
> would be $106. ($120 on PDAs/Blackberries.)

Even cheaper on Sprint.

> You're assuming a separate data account with a PC card, rather than a
> tetherable-data add-on.

No, I'm assuming data on a PDA type phone or data on a PC Card, Express
Card, or USB card.