Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news:imth24ptf4u84qlb4c38tcv3vna59htij6@4ax.com:
> I remember paying $200 for 16K of Ram back in 1980, and paying $300
> for 1 Meg of Ram in 1987.
>
>
Which computer, Ron? I had the Southwest Tech Products and built several
S-100 bus beasts. These kids would be horrified.
......Then some smartass came out with the $250 25ma teletype interface!
I still have paper tape machine language programs in a drawer around here
somewhere....(c;
As long as we're in "confession mode"....I once paid $2,295 for a 33MB,
full height, Tulin 4-platter hard drive for my IBM-PC XT from Crazy Bob's
Computer Warehouse in Atlanta.....$200 off!
It was the largest PC drive on the market and I just HAD to have one!
The drive is gone, but I still have the receipt....(c;
I paid $2,495 for the Compaq Portable PC with its twin 720KB floppy
drives, 64KB of RAM and 9" GREEN screen from Sears Computer Center in
Jacksonville, FL. The keyboard fit right into the bottom of the sewing
machine case! It only weighed as much as a Singer, too!
I'd be afraid to add up what I've wasted on computer hardware and
software since 1980.....too scary to even contemplate....I made Silicon
Valley's house payments many times....
But, alas, it's been one helluva great ride!
Clipper was the Dbase III COMPILER for the PCXT that made Dbase III haul
ass. My license number was 2400 out of the millions of copies sold...(c;
I was also an Ohio Scientific computer dealer, the FIRST microcomputer
with a real 74MB, 14" platter fixed hard drive in commercial production.
OS-65u with extended BASIC on its 6502 processor.....or you could run
CP/M on its Z-80.....or whatever the hell you wanted on its Motorola
6800....(c;
....all in a 19" rack about 18" high with dumb serial terminals we bought
from a local manufacturer in Columbia, SC, 30 miles from home.
We wrote custom BASIC software for the vending machine industry to track
machine production, inventory products and track the truck productions.
Quite something for those days....
Remember the first time you pressed RUN, the lights went crazy with
output, then you had to step through the "results" and read the 8 light
bulbs to find out what it did?....(c;
......and couldn't sleep for days because it didn't did what you wanted it
to did?!
.......................................Linux is easy....................
On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:26:09 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>news:imth24ptf4u84qlb4c38tcv3vna59htij6@4ax.com :
>
>> I remember paying $200 for 16K of Ram back in 1980, and paying $300
>> for 1 Meg of Ram in 1987.
>>
>>
>
>Which computer, Ron? I had the Southwest Tech Products and built several
>S-100 bus beasts. These kids would be horrified.
>
>.....Then some smartass came out with the $250 25ma teletype interface!
>I still have paper tape machine language programs in a drawer around here
>somewhere....(c;
>
>As long as we're in "confession mode"....I once paid $2,295 for a 33MB,
>full height, Tulin 4-platter hard drive for my IBM-PC XT from Crazy Bob's
>Computer Warehouse in Atlanta.....$200 off!
>
>It was the largest PC drive on the market and I just HAD to have one!
>
>The drive is gone, but I still have the receipt....(c;
>
>I paid $2,495 for the Compaq Portable PC with its twin 720KB floppy
>drives, 64KB of RAM and 9" GREEN screen from Sears Computer Center in
>Jacksonville, FL. The keyboard fit right into the bottom of the sewing
>machine case! It only weighed as much as a Singer, too!
>
>I'd be afraid to add up what I've wasted on computer hardware and
>software since 1980.....too scary to even contemplate....I made Silicon
>Valley's house payments many times....
>
>But, alas, it's been one helluva great ride!
>
>Clipper was the Dbase III COMPILER for the PCXT that made Dbase III haul
>ass. My license number was 2400 out of the millions of copies sold...(c;
>
>I was also an Ohio Scientific computer dealer, the FIRST microcomputer
>with a real 74MB, 14" platter fixed hard drive in commercial production.
>OS-65u with extended BASIC on its 6502 processor.....or you could run
>CP/M on its Z-80.....or whatever the hell you wanted on its Motorola
>6800....(c;
>...all in a 19" rack about 18" high with dumb serial terminals we bought
>from a local manufacturer in Columbia, SC, 30 miles from home.
>
>We wrote custom BASIC software for the vending machine industry to track
>machine production, inventory products and track the truck productions.
>Quite something for those days....
>
>Remember the first time you pressed RUN, the lights went crazy with
>output, then you had to step through the "results" and read the 8 light
>bulbs to find out what it did?....(c;
I dont go back THAT far.
>
>.....and couldn't sleep for days because it didn't did what you wanted it
>to did?!
I did have 2 boxes of punch cards to do statistical analysis in 1970,
and wrote a program in Fortran to do text plots of statistical
log probabilities. I never lost sleep, my programs worked.
Published in 1973 in the Journal of Sedimentary Petrology.
>
>......................................Linux is easy....................
My picture was in a National Magazine as the leading edge of the home
computer revolution, as in 1983; we had 2 computers in our home;
one for the kiddos, and one for the parents.
But the children couldnt touch the computer till all their homework
was done, and couldn't play games on computer, till they had done 30
minutes of math drills I had programmed in Basic.
Must of worked, they both graduated college Phi Beta Kappa
with 3.9+ GPAs; after having full academic scholarships.
On Tue, 13 May 2008 04:07:18 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>news:8pth24h8hmubp0lb57gibgh9b2lf3p74d9@4ax.com :
>
>> Discontinued models typically sold for 15% off, with Apple reimbursing
>> authorized dealers if memory serves correctly.
>>
>>
>
>With a new 3G broadband iPhone up against the 2G model dragging along like
>a snail, 15% would be simply stupid. I see why they're hiding them...(c;
I fully expect ATT to charge $40/month for the 3g data plan for a 3g
iPhone, which would leave some attraction for the original iPhone with
its $20 data plan.
And unless you're watching a Verizon commercial, WiFi is enough most
of the time for most folks.
In article <lfvi24hakoou51rm33t9kb26891e8gl8sd@4ax.com>,
Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> My picture was in a National Magazine as the leading edge of the home
> computer revolution, as in 1983; we had 2 computers in our home;
> one for the kiddos, and one for the parents.
>
> But the children couldnt touch the computer till all their homework
> was done, and couldn't play games on computer, till they had done 30
> minutes of math drills I had programmed in Basic.
>
> Must of worked,
Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> "4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f8c64ca9-b121-41ca-a547-95fc9d494f9f@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> What is interesting is that no one has the orginal Apple iPhone 8K or
>> 16K for sale anywhere.
>
> 8 or 16 _K_? Were these very early models based on the Apple II rather
> than OS X? ;-)
They used the Apple II OS, with one of the Apple II CP/M cards.
Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news:lfvi24hakoou51rm33t9kb26891e8gl8sd@4ax.com:
> My picture was in a National Magazine as the leading edge of the home
> computer revolution, as in 1983; we had 2 computers in our home;
> one for the kiddos, and one for the parents.
>
> But the children couldnt touch the computer till all their homework
> was done, and couldn't play games on computer, till they had done 30
> minutes of math drills I had programmed in Basic.
>
> Must of worked, they both graduated college Phi Beta Kappa
> with 3.9+ GPAs; after having full academic scholarships.
>
>
Congratulations on all points! Today's kids would be a lot better off if
you handed them broken computer hardware or crashed software and told
them they couldn't do their homework until they had fixed it. At least
they would have demonstrable skills, unlike high school graduates.
I have an English friend who lives in Atlanta. Many years ago he found a
pasteboard box with a little black baby girl some crackheads had
abandoned in one of Atlanta's biggest malls. A really good person, he
followed her into the terrible socialist services debacle and ended up
adopting her, the best thing that ever happened in her short life. A few
years ago, she graduated near the top of her class in Nursing and is now
a well-paid RN in a major hospital. My English friends are very well off
in commercial construction and real estate making all this possible. She
looks almost a match for Brandi, the beautiful singer.
Whenever someone asks about his black daughter, he paints a terrible
picture of him and a teenage prostitute. You have to know him to
appreciate the dry English humor in all of it....(c;
On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:41:31 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
>news:lfvi24hakoou51rm33t9kb26891e8gl8sd@4ax.com :
>
>> My picture was in a National Magazine as the leading edge of the home
>> computer revolution, as in 1983; we had 2 computers in our home;
>> one for the kiddos, and one for the parents.
>>
>> But the children couldnt touch the computer till all their homework
>> was done, and couldn't play games on computer, till they had done 30
>> minutes of math drills I had programmed in Basic.
>>
>> Must of worked, they both graduated college Phi Beta Kappa
>> with 3.9+ GPAs; after having full academic scholarships.
>>
>>
>
>Congratulations on all points! Today's kids would be a lot better off if
>you handed them broken computer hardware or crashed software and told
>them they couldn't do their homework until they had fixed it. At least
>they would have demonstrable skills, unlike high school graduates.
>
>I have an English friend who lives in Atlanta. Many years ago he found a
>pasteboard box with a little black baby girl some crackheads had
>abandoned in one of Atlanta's biggest malls. A really good person, he
>followed her into the terrible socialist services debacle and ended up
>adopting her, the best thing that ever happened in her short life. A few
>years ago, she graduated near the top of her class in Nursing and is now
>a well-paid RN in a major hospital. My English friends are very well off
>in commercial construction and real estate making all this possible. She
>looks almost a match for Brandi, the beautiful singer.
>
>Whenever someone asks about his black daughter, he paints a terrible
>picture of him and a teenage prostitute. You have to know him to
>appreciate the dry English humor in all of it....(c;
>
>NOONE is more fun, drunk at a party....NOONE.
On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:09:19 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
>>
>> "4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:f8c64ca9-b121-41ca-a547-95fc9d494f9f@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> What is interesting is that no one has the orginal Apple iPhone 8K or
>>> 16K for sale anywhere.
>>
>> 8 or 16 _K_? Were these very early models based on the Apple II rather
>> than OS X? ;-)
>
>They used the Apple II OS, with one of the Apple II CP/M cards.
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