Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

On Jun 10, 11:30*pm, David Moyer <mee...@world.com> wrote:
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later.
<snip>
> Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> much more here....

it will? i ported over from verizon to at&t and tried out an iphone
for a few weeks, and just ported back over to verizon and a htc touch
(xv6900 on verizon) this weekend, and i'm digging it so far. maybe if
some extra super news about the new iphone comes out in the next few
weeks i'll port back over, but i'm really digging the customizability,
flexibility, and speed of this phone. :D


> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/

ed wrote:

> it will? i ported over from verizon to at&t and tried out an iphone
> for a few weeks, and just ported back over to verizon and a htc touch
> (xv6900 on verizon) this weekend, and i'm digging it so far. maybe if
> some extra super news about the new iphone comes out in the next few
> weeks i'll port back over, but i'm really digging the customizability,
> flexibility, and speed of this phone. :D

The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of
features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of
a memory card slot, and lack of a user-replaceable battery, the new
iPhone is a worthy competitor.

Ron wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>
>
>
> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store


If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....

In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
> >
> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >
> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >
> >much more here....
> >
> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >
> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
> e=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
> e=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>
>
>

You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
interest"...

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:

>
>
>Ron wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
>
>
>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....


If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
there's no reasoning with You.

Ron wrote:

> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:23:20 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Ron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:19:24 -0400, News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store
>>
>>
>>If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you....
>
>
>
> If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo,
> there's no reasoning with You.



Wouldn't know. I have never used a Palm device.

"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> wrote:
>
>>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>>
>>Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>>
>>"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>>than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>>device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>>How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>>ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>>before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>>computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>>used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>>on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>>
>>much more here....
>>
>>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>
> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> that
> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> one
> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> comments. "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....3?dmode=source
>
> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....f?dmode=source
>
> Among many others.
>
> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)

My first thought when I read Alan's post.

"David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> wrote in message
news:meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com...
> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>
> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>
> "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
> ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
> used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
> on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>
> much more here....
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/

I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away.

In article <calvin-77962B.08110411062008@news.goldengate.net>,
Calvin <calvin@microsoft.com> wrote:

> In article <OYudnXVjR4ldKdLVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> ,
> News <News@Group.name> wrote:
>
> > David Moyer wrote:
> >
> > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> > >
> > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
> > > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> > > device to just $200
> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation...
> >
> >
> > , while fixing all of the major issues I described in
> > > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008,
> >
> >
> > Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS.
> >
> > Still a fashion accessory, no more.
>
> This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF?

MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
real e-mail with attachments?

--
"No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have." -McCain in April

"I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war
in Iraq." -McCain in June

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>> >
>> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>> >
>> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>> >
>> >much more here....
>> >
>> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>> >
>> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
>> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
>> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
>> that
>> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
>> one
>> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
>> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
>> comments. "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> Among many others.
>>
>> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
>> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
>> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
>> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> interest"...

We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
argument.