Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"

David Moyer wrote:
> In article <484ff03a$0$5003$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, but until they incorporate a phone book system, a calendar a
>> task manager, and a to do list which can synchronize with MS
>> Outlook, moving it a little more away from being a glorified toy and
>> more towards business use, much as I want one, I won't have one. I
>> don't even begin to understand how you can compare it to a
>> Blackberry. The iPhone is still a device designed for the
>> non-professional user.
>
> they announced that on Monday as well, take the tour of
> "MobleMe.com"... and if you want to do more than syncing of phone,
> addresses, calendars, task, todo's, then you can connect any iPhone
> to MS Exchange 2003, or 2007.
>
> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/
>
> the tour of the features
>
> http://www.apple.com/mobileme/guidedtour/
>
> and the iPhone for Enterprise
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/
>
> Sweet!
>
Ah, now this is something I will spend some time looking into. Thank you.

David Moyer wrote:
> In article <FhS3k.1109$LG4.239@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of
>> features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of
>> a memory card slot, and lack of a user-replaceable battery, the new
>> iPhone is a worthy competitor.
>
> the iPhone keyboard works FAR better than the old physical ones, it's
> where all cell phones will eventually end up since you can type faster
> and you can still use the whole screen for other tasks when the keyboard
> is not in use.
>
> you can add a memory card slot, you've been able to do that for years.
>
> and the battery is user replaceable, it's just $24.
>
> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html
>
> so you might want to learn how to research before you post again.
> thanks!!

The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.

Steve

In article <g2q57o$h9h$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> > the iPhone keyboard works FAR better than the old physical ones, it's
> > where all cell phones will eventually end up since you can type faster
> > and you can still use the whole screen for other tasks when the keyboard
> > is not in use.
>
> With a physical keyboard you can see the whole screen even when the
> keyboard is in use!

but screens on Blackberries and Nokia's are microscopic so that's a poor
argument.

> > you can add a memory card slot...
>
> To the iPhone? How?

belkin sells one.

> > ...you've been able to do that for years.
> The iPhone is 11 months old- you haven't been able to anything to it "for
> years."
>
> > and the battery is user replaceable, it's just $24.
> >
> > http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html
>
> +$5 or so for the soldering iron. Or do you still stand by your old "there
> are clips under the tape" story?

just install one in 3 years and find out.

> > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again.
> > thanks!!
>
> Pot, kettle, black...

you continuously don't understand the market, not me.

In article <EI2dnYyGHqtBA83VnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@giganews.com>,
Steve de Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:

> > http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html
> >
> > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again.
> > thanks!!
>
> The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.

but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery
when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25.

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 11 Jun 2008 16:18:54 -0400 ZnU wrote:
>
>> MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
>> high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive
>> real e-mail with attachments?
>
> Because MMS is the "poor man's push e-mail." Personally I hardly use it,
> since I use a smartphone that handles e-mail and attachments, but it's
> still the quickest and dirtiest way to quickly send a picture or video to
> someone else's dumbphone. Any higher-end/more featured product should
> incorporate a super-set of the features lower-end products have- not only
> higher-end features incompatible with other products.
>
> The iPhone's lack of MMS is either just laziness on the part of it's
> developers, or snobbishness of Apple's brass.

I vote for snobbishness. Like how we don't have multimedia card
readers on ANY Mac.

Steve

David Moyer wrote:
> In article <EI2dnYyGHqtBA83VnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Steve de Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>
>>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html
>>>
>>> so you might want to learn how to research before you post again.
>>> thanks!!
>> The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.
>
> but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery
> when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25.

The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.

Steve

Steve de Mena wrote:
> David Moyer wrote:
>> In article <EI2dnYyGHqtBA83VnZ2dnUVZ_hzinZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> Steve de Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html
>>>>
>>>> so you might want to learn how to research before you post again.
>>>> thanks!!
>>> The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.
>>
>> but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery
>> when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25.
>
> The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery.

Not from Apple, but there are add-ons available. I saw one jury-rigged
iPhone that had these features added. See
"http://i32.tinypic.com/6fcydz.jpg".

In article <OI-dnS1HDcMzHs3VnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@comcast.com>,
"PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-28A250.16272211062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> > In article <8JOdnRNVgaNMqM3VnZ2dnUVZ_h3inZ2d@comcast.com>,
> > "PC Guy" <pcguy@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> >> > In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> >> > Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the
> >> >> >planet.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner
> >> >> >rather
> >> >> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
> >> >> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described
> >> >> >in
> >> >> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
> >> >> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
> >> >> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once
> >> >> >you've
> >> >> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're
> >> >> >settling
> >> >> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
> >> >> >
> >> >> >much more here....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >> >>
> >> >> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
> >> >> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
> >> >> that
> >> >> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
> >> >> one
> >> >> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
> >> >> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
> >> >> comments. "
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....de33da9cee4d6a
> >> >> 3?d
> >> >> mod
> >> >> e=source
> >> >>
> >> >> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....d3cdbea6948cee
> >> >> f?d
> >> >> mod
> >> >> e=source
> >> >>
> >> >> Among many others.
> >> >>
> >> >> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
> >> >> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
> >> >> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
> >> >> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> >> > interest"...
> >>
> >> We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to
> >> weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current
> >> argument.
> >
> > Give an example...
>
> Certainly. Take a look at this thread:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....thread/bd9da39
> d9e3ce729/6a7674d92e39c2d6?lnk=raot#6a7674d92e39c2d6
>
> You're welcome

Sorry, but "Take a look at this thread" isn't providing an example.

--
"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
"I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
"It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X)
'[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)

In article <27Cdnb4x9q6MNc3VnZ2dnUVZ_qvinZ2d@giganews.com>, Steve de
Mena <steve@stevedemena.com> wrote:

> > > ZnU:
> > > MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a
> > > high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and
> > > receive real e-mail with attachments?

> > Todd Allcock:
> > Because MMS is the "poor man's push e-mail." Personally I hardly
> > use it, since I use a smartphone that handles e-mail and
> > attachments, but it's still the quickest and dirtiest way to
> > quickly send a picture or video to someone else's dumbphone. Any
> > higher-end/more featured product should incorporate a super-set of
> > the features lower-end products have- not only higher-end features
> > incompatible with other products.
> >
> > The iPhone's lack of MMS is either just laziness on the part of
> > it's developers, or snobbishness of Apple's brass.

> Steve de Mena:
> I vote for snobbishness. Like how we don't have multimedia card
> readers on ANY Mac.

Huh? I have in my MacBook Pro.

--
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"Alan Baker" <alangbaker@telus.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:alangbaker-BC6D37.11505911062008@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]...
> In article <8npv445qhl87jklfapj0javn5k4to070g2@4ax.com>,
> Mayor of R'lyeh <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:30 -0600, David Moyer <meetme@world.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet.
>> >
>> >Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008
>> >
>> >"I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather
>> >than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative
>> >device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in
>> >How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to
>> >ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it
>> >before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important
>> >computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've
>> >used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling
>> >on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison."
>> >
>> >much more here....
>> >
>> >http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...3g_preview.asp
>> >
>> >http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
>> "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound
>> bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact
>> that
>> the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every
>> one
>> of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution
>> should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow
>> comments. "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....9cee4d6a3?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: "
>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a6948ceef?dmod
>> e=source
>>
>> Among many others.
>>
>> It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and
>> uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product.
>> Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through
>> the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8)
>>
>>
>>
>
> You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against
> interest"...
>
> --
> "The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" --
> "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone
> "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix
> with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin
> on Mac OS X)
> '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' --
> 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the
> IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM)
> 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included
> on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun)