No docking Station with the new iPhone ?

In message <3t97541ee8p3gi98co17bimslhe0l4k86d@4ax.com> Ron
<ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:22:45 -0600, DevilsPGD
><spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
>>In message <ti25541elcsnobmoguq6pgrvbh1nmefqaq@4ax.com> Ron
>><ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:15:30 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
>>><kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>>>>1.0
>>>>
>>>>2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>>>>Another gotcha from apple.
>>>
>>>No SCSI cable either.
>>
>>Nor a parallel cable, but since the iPhone supports neither SCSI or
>>parallel, neither of these is a surprise.
>
>One could synch their iPhone in iTunes with any means of connectivity.

Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
parallel or SCSI cable?

At 12 Jun 2008 18:15:30 -0700 Kevin Weaver wrote:
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
the 1.0
>
> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
> Another gotcha from apple.

To be fair, it's not like you lose any functionality- most Pocket PCs and
WinMo phones no longer include cradles but only charge/sync cables as a
cost-saving move. Maybe Navas will make a FAQ about it someday... ;-)

In article <ka1954pkpg09pi908dbbu0rocrc3pn894q@4ax.com>,
DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>
> Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
> parallel or SCSI cable?

You connect it with the cable that will be included in the box.

All they've done is stop including the *dock*. The cable is still
there. If you buy a dock, you can plug the cable into the dock, and
then put the iPhone in the dock. Without a dock, you plug the cable
directly into the iPhone.

What the dock gives you is:

(1) Convenience. You can easily dock the phone with one hand. With the
cable, you probably will need both hands.

(2) The phone sitting in the dock is up at an angle where you can easily
read it. If a call comes in, you could easily read the caller ID and
decide whether to pick up or not. If the phone is hooked straight to
the cable, it is probably sitting flat on your desk, so you may not have
a good view of the display.

(3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
use it as a music player.

--
--Tim Smith

In article <SSj4k.4961$N87.1509@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
> 1.0
>
> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
> Another gotcha from apple.

Why would they need to buy a dock? It only has minor advantages over
plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.

--
--Tim Smith

In article <reply_in_group-524451.18551115062008@news.supernews.com>,
Tim Smith <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

> (3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
> the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
> use it as a music player.

.....b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but.......


........since you're synchronizing it with iTunes while it's plugged in,
then you just play your music straight from iTunes and not from the
iPod.....


...............ummmmmmmmmm.........

You must have a huge hard-on for SCSI cables.

"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:ti25541elcsnobmoguq6pgrvbh1nmefqaq@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:15:30 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>>the
>>1.0
>>
>>2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>>Another gotcha from apple.
>
> No SCSI cable either.

The dock has audio out. The point is they reduce the price at a cost of
taking things away that were in the iPhone 1.0 But apple will have a dock
that will fit for iPhone 2.0 at a 29.99 cost.


"Tim Smith" <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:reply_in_group-185DCC.18572115062008@news.supernews.com...
> In article <SSj4k.4961$N87.1509@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>> the
>> 1.0
>>
>> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>> Another gotcha from apple.
>
> Why would they need to buy a dock? It only has minor advantages over
> plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
> with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.
>
> --
> --Tim Smith

In message <reply_in_group-524451.18551115062008@news.supernews.com> Tim
Smith <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>In article <ka1954pkpg09pi908dbbu0rocrc3pn894q@4ax.com>,
> DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
>> parallel or SCSI cable?
>
>You connect it with the cable that will be included in the box.
>
>All they've done is stop including the *dock*. The cable is still
>there. If you buy a dock, you can plug the cable into the dock, and
>then put the iPhone in the dock. Without a dock, you plug the cable
>directly into the iPhone.
>
>What the dock gives you is:
>
>(1) Convenience. You can easily dock the phone with one hand. With the
>cable, you probably will need both hands.
>
>(2) The phone sitting in the dock is up at an angle where you can easily
>read it. If a call comes in, you could easily read the caller ID and
>decide whether to pick up or not. If the phone is hooked straight to
>the cable, it is probably sitting flat on your desk, so you may not have
>a good view of the display.
>
>(3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
>the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
>use it as a music player.

Understood. I'm a bit of a cradle/dock fan, with virtually all of my
devices having one, mainly for cable control.

I was just trying to figure out what "Ron" is talking about when he
refers to the lack of SCSI cable being included with an iPhone, since
the iPhone doesn't have a SCSI interface.

In message <reply_in_group-185DCC.18572115062008@news.supernews.com> Tim
Smith <reply_in_group@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>In article <SSj4k.4961$N87.1509@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>> 1.0
>>
>> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>> Another gotcha from apple.
>
>Why would they need to buy a dock?

Some of us like docks.

>It only has minor advantages over
>plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
>with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.

It also keeps cable clutter down, which is my big incentive.

At 16 Jun 2008 01:04:33 -0600 DevilsPGD wrote:

> >It only has minor advantages over
> >plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
> >with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.
>
> It also keeps cable clutter down, which is my big incentive.


That's why the Good Lord gave us Bluetooth! ;-) (Not that the iPhone can
use it, of course...)