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Old June 22nd, 2008
4iFone
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Default iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - well at least Sprint

This CDMA iPhone wanabee probably eats batteries but you can buy
extras and carry them in your pocket.

http://micro-sd-memory.blogspot.com/...-feedback.html
Sunday, June 22, 2008
Samsung Instinct with Haptic Feedback: Yes it is iPhone Killer

The Samsung Instinct is the most impressive iPhone 3G alternative
we’ve seen so far. It offers haptic feedback (small vibrations in
response to touches), 3G, GPS, 2-megapixel camera with video
recording, full e-mail and web browsing capabilities, and much more!
The Instinct runs on Sprint’s EV-DO Rev A high-speed network.

This remarkable smartphone features full QWERTY touchpad in landscape
format for faster typing… but, forget about typing. With Speech to
Action feature, all you have to do is say “search” and ask for “coffee
shops” or “pizza” or whatever you are looking for.

With the the help of built-in GPS capabilities, the Instinct will
quickly locate results near you. It will even give you direction via
Windows Live Maps. You can use speech commands for pretty much
anything you do - from texting, email sending, news searching, weather
info requests, traffic inquiries, and more. With Mobile Sync you can
always sync your phone to the Sprint website and back up all your
important data. When your battery runs low, simply change it. The
Samsung Instinct comes with 2 standard batteries in the box, so you
just switch them out while you charge the other.

With Stereo Bluetooth Profiles, you can stream your audio to a stereo
Bluetooth headset complete with Call Announce. A very important
feature is ability to multi-task. For example, you can listen to music
while you browse the web, and you can pause your tunes when a call
comes through.

A 2GB microSD card is included, plus the Samsung Instinct can hold up
to 8GB of external memory. You can use your memory to shoot, store,
and share pictures and videos with 2.0 MP camera and camcorder. All
images and videos can be viewed in thumbail mode or can be scrolled
though larger previews with filmstrip mode.

Customizable favorites allow you to easily drag-and-drop applications
in the order you want them. This feature comes handy when you want
your most-used features to be placed front and center.

Sprint Power Vision Services include Sprint TV Enabled, Sprint Mobile
Email, Spring Navigation, Sprint PCS Picture Mail, Sprint Music Store,
games, screen savers, and more. Most importantly, you can watch TV on-
the-go, quickly download your favorite music, and check your E-mail,
whether it’s corporate, POP3 or online service.

On Friday, Samsung Electronics began selling its touch-screen Instinct
handset for $70 cheaper than Apple’s iPhone 3G. The newest smartphone
is offered by Sprint Nextel for $130 after rebate. Sprint has said it
will spend more than $100 million to market the touch-screen Instinct
in hopes the cellphone can recover from steep customer losses.

What’s in the box? The Samsung Instinct includes: M800 Handset with
battery cover, 2GB microSD card (inserted into phone), 2 standard
batteries, battery cell charger, AC charger, chargeable USB cable,
3.5mm stereo headphones with microphone, microSD memory card adapter
for use with PCs, stylus packed in mini leather case, and printed
materials with CD.
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Old June 22nd, 2008
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Default iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - well at least Sprint

On Jun 22, 10:30*am, 4iFone <McPherson.truck.2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This CDMA iPhone wanabee probably eats batteries but you can buy
> extras and carry them in your pocket.
>
> http://micro-sd-memory.blogspot.com/...tinct-with-hap...
> Sunday, June 22, 2008
> Samsung Instinct with Haptic Feedback: Yes it is iPhone Killer
>
> The Samsung Instinct is the most impressive iPhone 3G alternative
> we’ve seen so far. It offers haptic feedback (small vibrations in
> response to touches), 3G, GPS, 2-megapixel camera with video
> recording, full e-mail and web browsing capabilities, and much more!
> The Instinct runs on Sprint’s EV-DO Rev A high-speed network.
>
> This remarkable smartphone features full QWERTY touchpad in landscape
> format for faster typing… but, forget about typing. With Speech to
> Action feature, all you have to do is say “search” and ask for “coffee
> shops” or “pizza” or whatever you are looking for.
>
> With the the help of built-in GPS capabilities, the Instinct will
> quickly locate results near you. It will even give you direction via
> Windows Live Maps. You can use speech commands for pretty much
> anything you do - from texting, email sending, news searching, weather
> info requests, traffic inquiries, and more. With Mobile Sync you can
> always sync your phone to the Sprint website and back up all your
> important data. When your battery runs low, simply change it. The
> Samsung Instinct comes with 2 standard batteries in the box, so you
> just switch them out while you charge the other.
>
> With Stereo Bluetooth Profiles, you can stream your audio to a stereo
> Bluetooth headset complete with Call Announce. A very important
> feature is ability to multi-task. For example, you can listen to music
> while you browse the web, and you can pause your tunes when a call
> comes through.
>
> A 2GB microSD card is included, plus the Samsung Instinct can hold up
> to 8GB of external memory. You can use your memory to shoot, store,
> and share pictures and videos with 2.0 MP camera and camcorder. All
> images and videos can be viewed in thumbail mode or can be scrolled
> though larger previews with filmstrip mode.
>
> Customizable favorites allow you to easily drag-and-drop applications
> in the order you want them. This feature comes handy when you want
> your most-used features to be placed front and center.
>
> Sprint Power Vision Services include Sprint TV Enabled, Sprint Mobile
> Email, Spring Navigation, Sprint PCS Picture Mail, Sprint Music Store,
> games, screen savers, and more. Most importantly, you can watch TV on-
> the-go, quickly download your favorite music, and check your E-mail,
> whether it’s corporate, POP3 or online service.
>
> On Friday, Samsung Electronics began selling its touch-screen Instinct
> handset for $70 cheaper than Apple’s iPhone 3G. The newest smartphone
> is offered by Sprint Nextel for $130 after rebate. Sprint has said it
> will spend more than $100 million to market the touch-screen Instinct
> in hopes the cellphone can recover from steep customer losses.
>
> What’s in the box? The Samsung Instinct includes: M800 Handset with
> battery cover, 2GB microSD card (inserted into phone), 2 standard
> batteries, battery cell charger, AC charger, chargeable USB cable,
> 3.5mm stereo headphones with microphone, microSD memory card adapter
> for use with PCs, stylus packed in mini leather case, and printed
> materials with CD.


How does that compare to the $300 16 GB iPhone? Wait, you can not buy
a 16GB micro sd card so this will never be a 16GB Instinct.

So compare that to a $200 8 GB iPhone. You pay $130 to Sprint and then
add an 8 GB sd card for $50 to $80 which takes this gem to $180 to
$210.

Then you have to worry about the sd card getting ejected and lost so
you have to buy another one again.

Samsung should have just included the memory to start with like Apple
does. Now does Sprint email work with Yahoo, HotMail or GMail like the
plain Jane iPhone does? Do you get true HTML email or plain text?

Do they give you a bag to carry all that extra hadware in that is
needed to keep the instinct running during the day?

Does it even sync with iTunes or does it sync OTA with Sprint or that
Micorsoft WinMo cludge for Sync to a PC?

What is the end user experience - all promise ending in frustration?


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Old June 22nd, 2008
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Default Feel the Instictive Pain Re: iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - wellat least Sprint

Can you feel the pain of using the 2008 Sprint Instinct Apple
wannabee?

No WiFi or WiMax, what was Sprint thinking? Do they really have a
signal everywhere?

Clearly cellphone-quality photos!

No internal storage: 2-GB microSD card included (upgradeable to 8 GB
only not 16 GB or greater).

Can't edit attachments.

Web browser needs a serious reworking, not even close to the beautiful
easy to use iPhone Browser

Includes a stylus ... but provides no slot to stow it, don't you just
love it?

And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
worse cellular provider according to public opinion.
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Old June 22nd, 2008
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Default Feel the Instictive Pain Re: iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - well at least Sprint

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:6a43bdf5-57c9-4d55-82c0-ca8c11c88c56@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:

> Can you feel the pain of using the 2008 Sprint Instinct Apple
> wannabee?
>
> No WiFi or WiMax, what was Sprint thinking? Do they really have a
> signal everywhere?


More places than AT&T.

>
> Clearly cellphone-quality photos!


Equivalent to the iPhone.

>
> No internal storage: 2-GB microSD card included (upgradeable to 8 GB
> only not 16 GB or greater).


Internal storage is for children.

>
> Can't edit attachments.


Anybody needing to edit attachments on a phone is a wnnabe.

>
> Web browser needs a serious reworking, not even close to the beautiful
> easy to use iPhone Browser


It's a phone, not a computer.

>
> Includes a stylus ... but provides no slot to stow it, don't you just
> love it?
>
> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.
>


In terms of customer service, yes. In terms of network, AT&T falls far
short in terms of 3g coverage.

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Default Feel the Instictive Pain Re: iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd- well at least Sprint

4phun wrote:
> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.


That's for customer service, not network coverage.
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Default Feel the Instictive Pain Re: iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - well at least Sprint

The Bob wrote:
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following in
> news:6a43bdf5-57c9-4d55-82c0-ca8c11c88c56@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Can you feel the pain of using the 2008 Sprint Instinct Apple
>> wannabee?
>>
>> No WiFi or WiMax, what was Sprint thinking? Do they really have a
>> signal everywhere?

>
> More places than AT&T.
>
>>
>> Clearly cellphone-quality photos!

>
> Equivalent to the iPhone.
>
>>
>> No internal storage: 2-GB microSD card included (upgradeable to 8 GB
>> only not 16 GB or greater).

>
> Internal storage is for children.
>
>>
>> Can't edit attachments.

>
> Anybody needing to edit attachments on a phone is a wnnabe.
>
>>
>> Web browser needs a serious reworking, not even close to the
>> beautiful easy to use iPhone Browser

>
> It's a phone, not a computer.
>
>>
>> Includes a stylus ... but provides no slot to stow it, don't you just
>> love it?
>>
>> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
>> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.
>>

>
> In terms of customer service, yes. In terms of network, AT&T falls
> far short in terms of 3g coverage.
>

If 4phun's information is correct, I think he has made some very valid
points. I don't agree with your responses to them. If it were, as you put
it, simply "a phone, not a computer" then it wouldn't need to have any of
the functions it has; it would just need to make calls. The bottom line is
that, you may call it what you want, but if it's going to do stuff, it
should do it well, not half-assed. Common, stylus but no place to stow it?
Who thought of that??? And why compare the price of one to the other with
different storage memories? That's an apple/oranges way of looking at
things, which is what I think they're counting on.

We'll see how much of an "iPhone killer" this thing turns out to be. About
the same as the LG Voyager, I suspect.


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Default Feel the Instictive Pain Re: iPhone Killer for the CDMA crowd - well at least Sprint

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:34:47 -0500, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx>
wrote:

>4phun wrote:
>> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
>> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.

>
>That's for customer service, not network coverage.



Sprint with most dropped calls, and worst building penetration you
mean due to it being stuck with inferior PCS 1900 MHz band?
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:485eadf1$0$11595$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> The Bob wrote:
>> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following in
>> news:6a43bdf5-57c9-4d55-82c0-ca8c11c88c56@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Can you feel the pain of using the 2008 Sprint Instinct Apple
>>> wannabee?
>>>
>>> No WiFi or WiMax, what was Sprint thinking? Do they really have a
>>> signal everywhere?

>>
>> More places than AT&T.
>>
>>>
>>> Clearly cellphone-quality photos!

>>
>> Equivalent to the iPhone.
>>
>>>
>>> No internal storage: 2-GB microSD card included (upgradeable to 8 GB
>>> only not 16 GB or greater).

>>
>> Internal storage is for children.
>>
>>>
>>> Can't edit attachments.

>>
>> Anybody needing to edit attachments on a phone is a wnnabe.
>>
>>>
>>> Web browser needs a serious reworking, not even close to the
>>> beautiful easy to use iPhone Browser

>>
>> It's a phone, not a computer.
>>
>>>
>>> Includes a stylus ... but provides no slot to stow it, don't you just
>>> love it?
>>>
>>> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
>>> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.
>>>

>>
>> In terms of customer service, yes. In terms of network, AT&T falls
>> far short in terms of 3g coverage.
>>

> If 4phun's information is correct, I think he has made some very valid
> points. I don't agree with your responses to them. If it were, as you put
> it, simply "a phone, not a computer" then it wouldn't need to have any of
> the functions it has; it would just need to make calls. The bottom line is
> that, you may call it what you want, but if it's going to do stuff, it
> should do it well, not half-assed. Common, stylus but no place to stow
> it? Who thought of that??? And why compare the price of one to the other
> with different storage memories? That's an apple/oranges way of looking at
> things, which is what I think they're counting on.
>
> We'll see how much of an "iPhone killer" this thing turns out to be. About
> the same as the LG Voyager, I suspect.


Maybe a person's choice of a phone is like comparing apples to oranges. We
all have our preferences. Why does one have to be a killer of the other?
Can't they all live harmoniously together in a sort of phone fruit salad?
>
>



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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> amazed us all with the following
in news:485eadf1$0$11595$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> The Bob wrote:
>> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following in
>> news:6a43bdf5-57c9-4d55-82c0-ca8c11c88c56@

26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> Can you feel the pain of using the 2008 Sprint Instinct Apple
>>> wannabee?
>>>
>>> No WiFi or WiMax, what was Sprint thinking? Do they really have a
>>> signal everywhere?

>>
>> More places than AT&T.
>>
>>>
>>> Clearly cellphone-quality photos!

>>
>> Equivalent to the iPhone.
>>
>>>
>>> No internal storage: 2-GB microSD card included (upgradeable to 8 GB
>>> only not 16 GB or greater).

>>
>> Internal storage is for children.
>>
>>>
>>> Can't edit attachments.

>>
>> Anybody needing to edit attachments on a phone is a wnnabe.
>>
>>>
>>> Web browser needs a serious reworking, not even close to the
>>> beautiful easy to use iPhone Browser

>>
>> It's a phone, not a computer.
>>
>>>
>>> Includes a stylus ... but provides no slot to stow it, don't you
>>> just love it?
>>>
>>> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
>>> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.
>>>

>>
>> In terms of customer service, yes. In terms of network, AT&T falls
>> far short in terms of 3g coverage.
>>

> If 4phun's information is correct, I think he has made some very valid
> points.


Which ones?

> I don't agree with your responses to them. If it were, as you
> put it, simply "a phone, not a computer" then it wouldn't need to have
> any of the functions it has; it would just need to make calls. The
> bottom line is that, you may call it what you want, but if it's going
> to do stuff, it should do it well, not half-assed. Common, stylus but
> no place to stow it? Who thought of that??? And why compare the price
> of one to the other with different storage memories? That's an
> apple/oranges way of looking at things, which is what I think they're
> counting on.
>
> We'll see how much of an "iPhone killer" this thing turns out to be.
> About the same as the LG Voyager, I suspect.
>
>



What about the long list of things he readily ignores in making the
comparison? True voice dialing, turn-by-turn GPS navigation, Video
recording capability, expanded media file compatability, voice command
functionality, etc.

Those are real functional differences. His need to focus on things like
a place to put a stylus shows the desperation of his position.

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Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:3fbt541e1vu1528bllf1geu9lkgb1qs6gm@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:34:47 -0500, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx>
> wrote:
>
>>4phun wrote:
>>> And the best of all - you have to use SPRINT which may be the USA's
>>> worse cellular provider according to public opinion.

>>
>>That's for customer service, not network coverage.

>
>
> Sprint with most dropped calls,


Cite?





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