First Reviews of the 3G iPhone!!

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-03A09D.01111009072008
@news.qwest.net:

> - "According to Apple, the iPhoneûs G.P.S. antenna is much too small to
> emulate the turn-by-turn navigation of a G.P.S. unit for a vehicle, for
> example."
>

Biggest crock of horseshit I've seen yet over this PoS.....(c;

Very funny....Case in POINT:

http://www.slashphone.com/106/8137.html

That suction cup is less than an inch in diameter.

How big do you think its giant sized antenna is?

It powers WAYFINDER on Nokia phones and tablets...even from your watch
pocket in your jeans....

http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=3779&lang=US

What a crock.....it's GPS antenna is HUGE!

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:g52s92$hkl$1@aioe.org:

> I wouldn't be surprised if third parties address the stereo AD2P
> situation as well- many Windows Mobile-based devices received their
> first AD2P profiles via third-party hacks.
>

While I'm reading this, I'm listening to 60's Carolina Beach Music on my
Motorola S9 playing MP3s on the microSD card in my MotoROKR Z6m.

I used the super sophisticated Windows Explorer custom software from
Windoze XP in click and drag mode to copy them from the G:\MP3\Beach Music
directory to the \Beach directory on the tiny microSD card pluged into an
SD adapter. 183 files copied to the card with no further intervention.

I then, quite unceremoniously, pulled the card out of the adapter and
plugged it into the top of the tiny phone.

Completely unknown to Motorola, who could really give a shit, these MP3
files play quite loudly with fantastic base in the rubber headphones,
drowning out the screams from my large parrots trying to get my attention
so I'll go give them a monkey biscuit treat they like in the late
afternoon.

No 3rd party software installed or crashed or crashed the pitiful operating
system in the ROKR playing these files or the Jimmy Buffett songs the ROKR
found in other directories.

Why can't a $600 FruitFone play beach music in these headphones this loud?

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:090720081433537611%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> i'm not sure third parties can add bluetooth profiles, but if they can,
> all the better.
>
>

Next thing you know, you FruitFoners will want someone to install Bluetooth
Private Area Networking so you can steal music and movies off the 32GB SDHC
cards in my N800 over BT PAN or OBEX or FTP.

How awful....

You should be ashamed going behind Steve's back like that after all he
hasn't done for you!

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-926A85.02152109072008
@news.qwest.net:

> or, more likely, a simple update when the app is done. kinda like the
> did with the itunes store. i guess google earth is coming too, that'll
> be interesting with a multi-touch screen.
>
>

Man it's SO cool, especially in 3D! Come see for yourself!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUkvEeBd1Is

Oh, wait, that was last JUNE '07!
Old Skool??

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:090720081433517514%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> iphone might not be the best choice.
>

You got that right, Bo!

In article <Xns9AD6BC284C2B7noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:090720081433517514%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
> > iphone might not be the best choice.
>
> You got that right, Bo!

way to go taking it out of context.

for some people it's not the best choice. for others it is.

At 09 Jul 2008 14:33:53 -0700 nospam wrote:

> > I wouldn't be surprised if third parties address the stereo AD2P
> > situation
> > as well- many Windows Mobile-based devices received their first AD2P
> > profiles via third-party hacks.
>
> i'm not sure third parties can add bluetooth profiles, but if they can,
> all the better.


You're probably right- it might not work via the official SDK/app store
model- that might be something best left to the "Jailbreakers." ;-)


> > To Apple's credit, it only took them one year to figure this out,
> > rather than the six or seven it took Microsoft to realize it! ;-)
>
> i think apple figured it out long before that (like when they announced
> web apps and people laughed). it takes time to put together an sdk,
> the documentation, the apps store and the infrastructure to support it
> all.


Yeah, I was being tongue-in-cheek, or at least cheeky, anyway...


> > It'll be
> > interesting to see what developers can wring out of the iPhone's
> > impressive hardware, other than the plethora of recipe filing,
> > biorhythm calculating, calorie counting, etc. programs that
> > amateur mobile developers seem to think the world always needs
> > one more of! ;-)
>
> one good thing about the way the apps store works is that there will be
> a lot less crap. however, i'm not so sure the central distribution
> method can scale as the device gains popularity.


It manages to deliver an impressive number of songs- I'm sure it can handle
a few thousand apps! I suspect the app store will be a work in progress,
perhaps giving "premium" shelf space to known developers or popular
downloads, much like eBay offers "featured listings" for an additional
cost. I wouldn't expect some unknown author's "Hello World" app to get the
same consideration as Tom Tom's GPS software, for example, which would be a
good thing- many mobile software distributors, like Handango, are difficult
to navigate unless you know your desired app by name or developer, due to
the hundreds of cheesy "me too" apps cluttering up every software category.

(This reminds me of a guy who hangs out on the WinMo usenet groups who has
single-handely written over 5,000 free WinMo "apps" over the last several
years- mostly nearly-identical database apps differing only by title and
subject- i.e. a stamp collecting "app", coin collecting "app", VCR tape
database, DVD database, etc. No one has the heart to tell him that one
general purpose database app- or even a spreadsheet- would replace almost
his entire library!) ;-)

In article <g53ffa$b38$1@aioe.org>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> > i'm not sure third parties can add bluetooth profiles, but if they can,
> > all the better.
>
> You're probably right- it might not work via the official SDK/app store
> model- that might be something best left to the "Jailbreakers." ;-)

maybe, but that hasn't happened with the current model. it could be
that not too many people are interested, or that it's just not worth
the effort.

> > one good thing about the way the apps store works is that there will be
> > a lot less crap. however, i'm not so sure the central distribution
> > method can scale as the device gains popularity.
>
> It manages to deliver an impressive number of songs- I'm sure it can handle
> a few thousand apps!

except songs don't need to be submitted for evaluation. it's not clear
to me how apple is going to manage a huge onslaught of apps being
submitted.

> I suspect the app store will be a work in progress,

no doubt it will be. the ad-hoc method of distribution will probably
grow into something less centralized and more useful to everyone.

> perhaps giving "premium" shelf space to known developers or popular
> downloads, much like eBay offers "featured listings" for an additional
> cost. I wouldn't expect some unknown author's "Hello World" app to get the
> same consideration as Tom Tom's GPS software, for example, which would be a
> good thing- many mobile software distributors, like Handango, are difficult
> to navigate unless you know your desired app by name or developer, due to
> the hundreds of cheesy "me too" apps cluttering up every software category.

that works both ways. having a level playing field, where anyone can
write the next killer app and not just big companies with money, is
great. if a company can buy their way to the front screen of the apps
store, then it's not so level anymore.

> (This reminds me of a guy who hangs out on the WinMo usenet groups who has
> single-handely written over 5,000 free WinMo "apps" over the last several
> years- mostly nearly-identical database apps differing only by title and
> subject- i.e. a stamp collecting "app", coin collecting "app", VCR tape
> database, DVD database, etc. No one has the heart to tell him that one
> general purpose database app- or even a spreadsheet- would replace almost
> his entire library!) ;-)

heh, that's a bit excessive.

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 11:26:44 -0700, Mark Crispin <mrc@Panda.COM> wrote:

>
>Golly gee, my Japanese 3G phone doesn't drain "much more quickly" using
>3G. 3G is only about a 25% hit over GSM for talk time. In standby, it
>lasts longer in 3G.

I realize that you've got other stuff going on in your post,
but I'd like to ask about your phone.

I ask because I'm taking the iPhone seriously, but I'm not an
Apple fan or anything like that. I'm taking it seriously because it is
the only phone available to me here in NYC, to the best of my
knowledge, that will finally allow me to access and input data in
Japanese.

I've been investigating Palm, Win Mob, RIM devices for ages
now, and it's been totally frustrating.

May I ask both where you're posting from and what
instrument/network you're using?

DGI

In article <FcqdnUegE8NdK-nVnZ2dnUVZ_vninZ2d@comcast.com>,
george@nospam.invalid says...
> David Moyer wrote:
> > In article <MPG.22de5c42e44d68b989841@news.individual.net>,
> > Jim Mason <jim.mason@removethisukonline.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>> Just posted - The very first reviews of the new iPhon
> >> Why do you think this is relevant to alt.cellular.nokia?
> >
> > proly cuz lots of nokia users are interested in the iphone, that's why.
>
> You just don't understand. The fanbois whose entire existence is defined
> by an electronic device think it is so important (in their minds) that
> they need to "convert" everyone else even if they could care less.

Are these morons `paid` by Apple?