MobileMe push mail now active

Check the 30 day forecast yourself.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-584B7C.22525510072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
>>
>> What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a
>> share
>> in the past month ?
>
> no, it's only down 4.60 since the keynote, and much of that drop is
> related to SJ's health concerns, and the massive 45 point run up before
> the keynote.
>
> apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.
>
> -

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
>
> What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a share
> in the past month ?

no, it's only down 4.60 since the keynote, and much of that drop is
related to SJ's health concerns, and the massive 45 point run up before
the keynote.

apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.

-

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-15DCD7.22500310072008@news.qwest.net:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Please. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that
>> >> MobileMe is currently $100 per year (not $100 for a one-time
>> >> purchase, but per year). Over $8.00 a month additional expense to
>> >> the user to achieve about the same thing that the Blackberry does
>> >> for FREE. How do you figure that RIM has to keep up?
>> >
>> > MobileMe is around $75-$80 a year (ongoing) $99 is just the list
>> > price.
>> >
>> > http://www.powermax.com/parts/show/n40073?src=g
>> >
>>
>> Answer the question posed, Oxtard. RIM offers the same functionality
>> for free? How are they 'catching up'?
>
> RIM doesn't offer anything even close to .Mac or now called
> "MoblieMe".
>
> MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
> allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it ties
> into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish streaming
> movies,

But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish to a
streaming site?

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:apony-A9E147.23182710072008@news.qwest.net:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> > MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
>> > allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it
>> > ties into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish
>> > streaming movies,
>>
>> But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish
>> to a streaming site?
>
> what? then what are all the apps that record video used for?
>
> buzzzzt... wrong.
>
> somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going
> on with the iphone...
>
> http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/
>
> http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...-recorder-for-
> ip hone.html
>
> and many more...
>

So why PAY to record video when you can do it for free on most other high
end smartphones?

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > MobileMe allows you to build and host custom websites via iWeb, it
> > allows you to have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, it ties
> > into your photo database with iPhoto, allows you to publish streaming
> > movies,
>
> But the phone doesn't record videos, so what content would I publish to a
> streaming site?

what? then what are all the apps that record video used for?

buzzzzt... wrong.

somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going on
with the iphone...

http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/

http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...ecorder-for-ip
hone.html

and many more...

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> > somebody... insert the name "bob" doesn't know what the heck is going
> > on with the iphone...
> >
> > http://www.iphonevideorecorder.com/
> >
> > http://mytrini-iphone.blogspot.com/2...-recorder-for-
> > ip hone.html
> >
> > and many more...
> >
>
> So why PAY to record video when you can do it for free on most other high
> end smartphones?

you get what you pay for... so if you just want a cheesy little video
recorder like other smartphones have, i'm sure there will be free
versions in a few days...

many developers are waiting on the official release tomorrow at 8am...

i've been using 2.0 all day, and can tell you the world is about to
change for all cell phone makers, i've installed a bit over 40 apps and
they all work much better than i had hoped. the install process is
incredible, just incredible. two taps of your finger and the app
installs itself into the iphone dock, and that's "it"... sweet.

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> Answer the question posed, Oxtard. RIM offers the same functionality for
> free? How are they 'catching up'?

Come on, you guys are just trolling now. Do some research before posting
this nonsense. Check out what MoblieMe is and come back.

You and Larry (assuming you aren't sock puppets) are looking like total
retards today. It might be wise to take a short break and educate
yourselves.

anon wrote:
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> Answer the question posed, Oxtard. RIM offers the same
>> functionality for free? How are they 'catching up'?
>
> Come on, you guys are just trolling now. Do some research before
> posting this nonsense. Check out what MoblieMe is and come back.
>
> You and Larry (assuming you aren't sock puppets) are looking like
> total retards today. It might be wise to take a short break and
> educate yourselves.
>
I actually am reluctant to get involved in this childish,
my-toy-is-better-than-your-toy, name-calling group, but the OP's post was
about the "push email now up and running" and he was excited about that. Not
all the other great things that MobileMe can do that BB can't.

Allow me to make my point. If I don't want "to build and host custom
websites via iWeb, have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, tie
into my photo database with iPhoto, or publish streaming
movies", and I just want push email, a phone that works well, and 3G
internet access, I still have to pay $100/year, $8/mo, extra to achieve that
with an iPhone over that of a BB. I find that disarming. It does reek of
greed by Apple, a not-even-attempt-at- camouflage way of generating more
revenue which seems to scream lack of respect for the consumer, and so
should you find it disarming for those reasons. It may very well be
"better" than what BB has to offer, but "better" isn't always "better" if
you don't need or want what the packaged deal includes.

And please remember, if you haven't read any of my prior posts, I WANT an
iPhone. I love gadgets and technology. But I personally don't want to
permanently increase my monthly expenses for things I won't use just to have
this latest toy. I am of the side right now that, after all the hype wears
off, and most people come to realize they don't use any of that stuff
either, the iPhone's appeal will fade for many. No, I'm not predicting the
demise of the iPhone, or the downfall of Apple, just an eventual leveling
off.

Oxford wrote:
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> And in the past month it's down 10.00 a share.
>>
>> What did the iPhone 2.0 do for apple to let there stock drop 10.00 a
>> share in the past month ?
>
> no, it's only down 4.60 since the keynote, and much of that drop is
> related to SJ's health concerns, and the massive 45 point run up
> before the keynote.
>
> apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.
>
> -
You've used RIM's stock price drop as an argument that it's been 'hurt' by
the iPhone, but you rationalize away Apple's stock price drop during the
same period as due to Job's health concerns. And you've failed to take into
account the entire Market's decline in the past few weeks.

I would say at this point you've gone over the top in your advocacy/defense
of iPhone and your prediction of Rim's demise. You've totally left the realm
of objectivity.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:4877c68b$0$11625$607ed4bc@cv.net...

> Allow me to make my point. If I don't want "to build and host custom
> websites via iWeb, have a remote Hard Drive mount on any PC or Mac, tie
> into my photo database with iPhoto, or publish streaming
> movies", and I just want push email, a phone that works well, and 3G
> internet access, I still have to pay $100/year, $8/mo, extra to achieve
> that with an iPhone over that of a BB. I find that disarming. It does reek
> of greed by Apple, a not-even-attempt-at- camouflage way of generating
> more revenue which seems to scream lack of respect for the consumer, and
> so should you find it disarming for those reasons. It may very well be
> "better" than what BB has to offer, but "better" isn't always "better" if
> you don't need or want what the packaged deal includes.

I'm not sure that's entirely fair, however. Despite the OP's excitement
over "MobileMe," it's hardly the only push e-mail solution out there for the
iPhone. Any user with a work Exchange account can setup push for his work
e-mail (if the IT admins allow mobile access), and personal users can get a
free Exchange account from vendors like mail2web.com for push (I've used a
Mail2Web account on my WinMo devices for a couple of years- makes deploying
a new device dead simple. When my T-Mo MDA died two weeks ago, I replaced
it with an AT&T Tilt. I entered the mail2web Exchange server settings and
within two minutes of swapping my SIM from the dead MDA to the Tilt, my
e-mail, contacts, calendar and tasks were sitting in the Tilt without it
coming anywhere near my PC.)

So while MobileMe is one method of getting push email on an iPhone, it isn't
the only way.

Besides, even without push, you can poll POP or IMAP e-mail every 15
minutes- you might need faster retrieval than that, but most people don't.
(I do, but mostly because my push account is also my Visual Voicemail
account. I don't want to wait 5, 10 or 15 minutes for missed call
notifications or voicemail sound files to hit my phone.)

[There you go Oxford- another pro-iPhone post from me. I'm "Fair and
Blanced," just like Fox News...] ;-)


> And please remember, if you haven't read any of my prior posts, I WANT an
> iPhone. I love gadgets and technology. But I personally don't want to
> permanently increase my monthly expenses for things I won't use just to
> have this latest toy. I am of the side right now that, after all the hype
> wears off, and most people come to realize they don't use any of that
> stuff either, the iPhone's appeal will fade for many.

I disagree for the most part, at least about the phone itself- the $30 data
plan foisted upon iPhone buyers is the same price as any smartphone/PDA
phone offered by AT&T- WinMo, Blackberries, etc. As long as people enjoy
mobile data and e-mail, they'll see the value. I even suspect that AT&T
will eventually relax the forced uptake of the data plan, just as they did
for iPhone Sr. They'll probably force you to sign up with it, hoping it
will wow you into keeping it, then let you drop it eventually.

I agree with you that relatively few will opt for "MobileMe"- partly because
of the cost, and partly because (as I understand it, but Oxford can correct
me if I'm wrong) it has less functionality for Windows PC users, who by
their sheer numbers will make up the majority of iPhone buyers, just as they
make up the majority of iPod owners.

> No, I'm not predicting the demise of the iPhone, or the downfall of Apple,
> just an eventual
> leveling off.

Sure- that will happen as the hype and hysteria wear off, and consumers
continue to get better educated. The (original) iPhone launched at a very
good time for Apple- many cellular customers, who often based their choice
of phones on whatever device was smallest, thinnest, or fashionable, were
blissfully ignorant of the capabilities of mid- to high-end phones. By
pushing an "internet" device to a primarily voice and texting public, Apple
gave a wakeup call to carriers that they were missing the revenue boat on
mobile data by assuming only Enterprise customers were interested in it.