MobileMe push mail now active

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> a phone that works well, and 3G
> internet access, I still have to pay $100/year, $8/mo, extra to achieve that
> with an iPhone over that of a BB.

it's more like $6.50 a month, nobody but newbies pay the full list price.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
news:4877c81b$0$11644$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> I would say at this point you've gone over the top in your
> advocacy/defense of iPhone and your prediction of Rim's demise. You've
> totally left the realm of objectivity.
>
>

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Apple investors, ignoring the last 3 day rise of Gold (the standard of
value) rising $44, don't seem to excited by FruitFone releases...being a
little more realistic lot.

Today was a VERY bad day for America. The largest private mortgage lender
in the United States was closed and taken over by the FDIC to the tune of
4-8 Billion US dollars from a run on deposits caused by some politician's
comments.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080711/indymac.html

"IndyMac's collapse is second only to that of Continental Illinois National
Bank, which had nearly $40 billion in assets when it failed in 1984,
according to the FDIC."

This is FAR more important than anything Apple in today's news.....

Our country is in collapse and we're standing around worrying over a cheap
PC board with a bunch of silicon soldered to it......That's sad in itself!

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> > apple is outperforming the main market indexes, just as predicted.
> >
> > -
> You've used RIM's stock price drop as an argument that it's been 'hurt' by
> the iPhone, but you rationalize away Apple's stock price drop during the
> same period as due to Job's health concerns. And you've failed to take into
> account the entire Market's decline in the past few weeks.
>
> I would say at this point you've gone over the top in your advocacy/defense
> of iPhone and your prediction of Rim's demise. You've totally left the realm
> of objectivity.

just looking at the facts.

Rimm has dropped because of the iphone 2.0 announcement, there is no
question. apple has dropped "some" because of the SJ health scare... but
only apple is out performing the market by about 10%. that's a fact.

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> So while MobileMe is one method of getting push email on an iPhone, it isn't
> the only way.
>
> Besides, even without push, you can poll POP or IMAP e-mail every 15
> minutes- you might need faster retrieval than that, but most people don't.
> (I do, but mostly because my push account is also my Visual Voicemail
> account. I don't want to wait 5, 10 or 15 minutes for missed call
> notifications or voicemail sound files to hit my phone.)
>
> [There you go Oxford- another pro-iPhone post from me. I'm "Fair and
> Blanced," just like Fox News...] ;-)

thanks todd, i appreciate you working hard for the bright side of the
force :)

but will the iphone poll pop/imap when in standby? hum...

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> I agree with you that relatively few will opt for "MobileMe"- partly because
> of the cost, and partly because (as I understand it, but Oxford can correct
> me if I'm wrong) it has less functionality for Windows PC users, who by
> their sheer numbers will make up the majority of iPhone buyers, just as they
> make up the majority of iPod owners.

correct, windows is still quite weak when it comes to integrated cloud
services.

At 12 Jul 2008 00:35:12 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> thanks todd, i appreciate you working hard for the bright side of the
> force :)

I call 'em like I see 'em...

> but will the iphone poll pop/imap when in standby? hum...

You tell us, I don't own one! I'd assume it does like all other
smartphones...

At 12 Jul 2008 00:38:39 -0600 Oxford wrote:
> partly because (as I understand it, but Oxford can correct
> > me if I'm wrong) it has less functionality for Windows PC users, who by
> > their sheer numbers will make up the majority of iPhone buyers, just as
they
> > make up the majority of iPod owners.
>
> correct, windows is still quite weak when it comes to integrated cloud
> services.

If you mean Apple chooses not to fully support Windows, I agree. Other
Cloud services support Windows just fine: Google, Exchange, Office Live,
Live, Skydrive, etc...

Although Microsoft could learn a few hings from the MobileMe concept- a
good "Personal Exchange" service targeted at home users for only $5/month
or so would be nice- full hosted Exchange (and it's $15/month or so fees)
are overkill for home and SOHO users. I use the free and open source
Funambol SyncML client to keep my mobiles, desktops and laptops in sync.
They support iPhone as well, at least in a limited way.

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> > but will the iphone poll pop/imap when in standby? hum...
>
> You tell us, I don't own one! I'd assume it does like all other
> smartphones...

ah, thought you had one and knew about 2.0... i have 2.0 and don't see
anything related to checking mail in 15, 30, etc minute increments.

looks like there is a bit of a hack here, but it's still not what i
want...

http://modmyifone.com/forums/vbseo.p...hp&do=file&id=
264

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> > correct, windows is still quite weak when it comes to integrated cloud
> > services.
>
> If you mean Apple chooses not to fully support Windows, I agree. Other
> Cloud services support Windows just fine: Google, Exchange, Office Live,
> Live, Skydrive, etc...

well, Apple would have to port their entire iLife suite, their iWork
suit, Apple Mail, iCal, etc, etc to have Windows work on par with a Mac
using MobileMe. That's simply not going to happen, so yes, Windows is
limited with MobileMe.

Yes, you listed a tawdry collection of cloud pieces for Windows, but
only Apple has been able to pull off the entire group of services under
one sky.

> Although Microsoft could learn a few hings from the MobileMe concept- a
> good "Personal Exchange" service targeted at home users for only $5/month
> or so would be nice- full hosted Exchange (and it's $15/month or so fees)
> are overkill for home and SOHO users. I use the free and open source
> Funambol SyncML client to keep my mobiles, desktops and laptops in sync.
> They support iPhone as well, at least in a limited way.

Yeah, i'm not sure what MS is doing everyday, they don't seem to be
creating or modernizing any of their apps, just little tweaks here and
there. Maybe Vista has them entirely sidetracked... but whatever the
case, it certainly reminds me of how Apple was functioning in the mid
90's.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-A2330C.13220612072008@news.qwest.net...
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> > but will the iphone poll pop/imap when in standby? hum...
>>
>> You tell us, I don't own one! I'd assume it does like all other
>> smartphones...
>
> ah, thought you had one...

No, I require a feature set far beyond what Apple offers in a phone.