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Old July 12th, 2008, 07:48 PM
Steve Sobol
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

On 2008-07-12, Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
> States.


Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
first day, didn't they.

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Old July 12th, 2008, 07:48 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

On 2008-07-12, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
> On 2008-07-12, Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
>> States.

>
> Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
> first day, didn't they.


Oh, and Trollboi, lest we forget, you were complaining about AT&T not too
long after switching from Sprint...


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Old July 12th, 2008, 08:02 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

In article <bdbi74p35g67jjacnlbe0uv89hgvobtv6i@4ax.com>, Ron
<ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> WRONG - It is user replaceable, just Apple isnt providing
> instructions. The 3G battery IS NOT soldered in.


But you have to take the phone apart don't you? I don't think that is
exactly the common definition of user replaceable. That is a fudge of
the definition of user replaceable.

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Old July 12th, 2008, 08:02 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone


"Ron" <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:bdbi74p35g67jjacnlbe0uv89hgvobtv6i@4ax.com...
>>


> Now that analog has been turned off, ATT coverage reaches more people
> than any other carrier.


I don't think that this is true now. Also, once the acquisitions are complete, it
certainly will not be true.

>>The iPhone 3G's battery life is going to SUCK. If you want to use your iPhone as
>>your MP3 player, PDA, e-mail device, AND phone, you'll never be able to actually
>>use the damn thing (certainly not all day). And, given this, that battery STILL isn't
>>user-replaceable. Stupid, stupid, STUPID!

>
> WRONG - It is user replaceable, just Apple isnt providing
> instructions. The 3G battery IS NOT soldered in.


Yes, someone is going to carry a little screwdriver around and dick around
with disassembling the phone to swap a battery. You know exactly what I meant
and it stioo stands - the iPhone does NOT have a field replacable battery
>
>
> And I certainly dont want any phone using the inferior 1900 MHz Band.


Hey bucko - what freqs do you think your beloved iPhone uses? If you stand
by your above statement, you don't want an iPhone either. You DO know that
AT&T isn't just 800Mhz, right??
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Old July 12th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:bdbi74p35g67jjacnlbe0uv89hgvobtv6i@4ax.com:


>
> Sprint phones that have memory slots are typically
> limted to a 8 Gig add-on card (and that card is extra cost)
>
>>


But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the card
as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?

Sorry to see that you're still stupid and slow.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 11:17 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

In message <Xns9AD9B70801D26bob@216.196.97.136> The Bob <nospam@bob.com>
wrote:

>Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
>news:bdbi74p35g67jjacnlbe0uv89hgvobtv6i@4ax.com :
>
>
>>
>> Sprint phones that have memory slots are typically
>> limted to a 8 Gig add-on card (and that card is extra cost)
>>
>>>

>
>But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the card
>as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?


Delete the existing music, load more music on instead.

Not as convenient, but for most users, it does the trick.
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Old July 12th, 2008, 11:31 PM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

DevilsPGD <spam_narf_spam@crazyhat.net> amazed us all with the following
in news:seoi74dpaorbiglg37vorn51tingpcdnhc@4ax.com:

> In message <Xns9AD9B70801D26bob@216.196.97.136> The Bob
> <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>>Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> amazed us all with the following in
>>news:bdbi74p35g67jjacnlbe0uv89hgvobtv6i@4ax.co m:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Sprint phones that have memory slots are typically
>>> limted to a 8 Gig add-on card (and that card is extra cost)
>>>
>>>>

>>
>>But they are not limited to 8 Gig of data because you can swap out the
>>card as many times as you want. How do you do that with an iPhone?

>
> Delete the existing music, load more music on instead.


Or keep the music and put in a new card to get more. Or switch from a
music card to a movie card.

>
> Not as convenient, but for most users, it does the trick.
>


"Doing the trick" sounds more like settling for the limitations of a device
instead of having greater freedom to do what you really want.
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Old July 13th, 2008, 12:45 AM
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Mark Crispin <mrc@Panda.COM> wrote in
news:alpine.OSX.1.10.0807120832130.10623@pangtzu.p anda.com:

> It'll be interesting to watch what happens when it dawns on the fanboys
> worldwide that by using mobileme they've given all their private data to
> the US government. Of course, that assumes that mobileme eventually is
> made to work. Apple doesn't seem to understand scalability yet.
>
>


That doesn't scare me half as much as letting ATT have their private data
stored in Isreal for the Mossad to have access to.....

All landline phone company records are stored in Israel.

Ask yourself why......(c;

http://www.rense.com/general18/isr2.htm

Rense is quoting the Fox News reporting...

Do YOU trust the Mossad with your credit card numbers?

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Old July 13th, 2008, 12:46 AM
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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:slrng7icfa.sqs.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net.. .
> On 2008-07-12, Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
>> States.

>
> Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
> first day, didn't they.



I'd still lay the blame at Apple for this "pre-bricked" b*llsh*t. AT&T's
job is to provide a customer with a phone and a working SIM. No other phone
in AT&T's arsenal needs to be tethered to a computer in order to contact the
manufacturer's server for permission to "activate" it. If the phones were
shipped ready to use, like EVERY OTHER GSM phone on planet Earth, there
wouldn't have been any snafus yesterday (other than the overload of iPhone
1.0 owners trying to upgrade to 2.0, but that wouldn't affect new
activations if those phones also didn't need to contact the same servers.)




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Old July 13th, 2008, 12:46 AM
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Default The actual reasons NOT to get an iPhone

Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrng7icfa.sqs.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:

> On 2008-07-12, Ron <ronclifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> ATT is the worst provider, except for all the others in the United
>> States.

>
> Right. They did a bang-up job with all of the iPhone 3G activations that
> first day, didn't they.
>


Charleston, South Carolina area report.....

3G implemented in downtown Charleston, about half of North Charleston, Mt
Pleasant across the harbor from Charleston where the lawyers live and parts
of James Island.

The bedroom community of Summerville, where thousands and thousands of
middle class customers live is EDGE only, as is all the surrounding
communities.

What ATT did was to install 3G on a few towers where the bankers and
lawyers work and live. To hell with the rest including the iPhone owners.

Both Verizon and Alltel provide wide area EVDO coverage wherever the
company has phone coverage. Alltel provides broadband EVDO in the
damnedest place in the boondocks! Tiny hamlets and all the little roads
between them have broadband internet service to keep my Alltel-connected
music streaming driving out in the country.

ATT my ass....it's shit!

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