European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before storesin the US even opened

In article <Xns9ADADAF5524A4noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Fetching http://www.apple.com/ ...
> GET / HTTP/1.1
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> Host: www.apple.com
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> Connection: close
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> User-Agent: MacWeb/2.0
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> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
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> Age: 133
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> X-Cache-TTL: 467
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> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:00 GMT
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> Content-Length: 10537
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> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
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> Expires: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:36:00 GMT
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> Cache-Control: max-age=600
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> Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10
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> X-Cached-Time: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:01 GMT
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>
> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.

apple is not running linux.

In article <Xns9ADADC0E2848noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Not as long as Apple is playing the old "hold back" game only selling 3000
> units per store trying to prevent discounting.

how is it that you are privy to how many units apple shipped to each
store?

> Sellphone sales are measured in the tens of MILLIONS not thousands. All
> the 3Gs so far manufactured is akin to a grain of sand to the Sahara
> Desert.

apple said they'd sell 10 million by the end of 2008 and they're on
track to meet that goal. that's not too bad for someone with zero
market share just thirteen months ago.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720081840351431%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> In article <Xns9ADADAF5524A4noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> Fetching http://www.apple.com/ ...
>> GET / HTTP/1.1
>> Host: www.apple.com
>> Connection: close
>> User-Agent: MacWeb/2.0
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> Age: 133
>> X-Cache-TTL: 467
>> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:00 GMT
>> Content-Length: 10537
>> Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
>> Expires: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:36:00 GMT
>> Cache-Control: max-age=600
>> Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10
>> X-Cached-Time: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:01 GMT
>>
>> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
>
> apple is not running linux.

Which massive Apple server system does Apple run that touts Linux
Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 as its operating system on Apple's own
webpage core?

The data above was downloaded by Sam Spade straight off the Apple.com
webpage only because I have no valid address for the servers used for
license/purchase checking of 3G FruitFones. www.apple.com runs on a
LINUX server under APACHE 1.3.29 (Darwin)

http://www.apache.org/

Download it yourself from one of these mirrors:
http://www.apache.org/mirrors/

They MIGHT be running Apache on a Windows Server box, I suppose. I was
trying to be optimistic because Apple loves to tell everyone their OS is
Unix.....(c;

In article <Xns9ADAEB43CC8DFnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> >> Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10
> >> X-Cached-Time: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:01 GMT
> >>
> >> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
> >
> > apple is not running linux.
>
> Which massive Apple server system does Apple run that touts Linux
> Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 as its operating system on Apple's own
> webpage core?

it does not tout linux apache at all.

it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac
os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're
all running mac os x server.

<http://www.apple.com/xserve/>
<http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/>

> The data above was downloaded by Sam Spade straight off the Apple.com
> webpage only because I have no valid address for the servers used for
> license/purchase checking of 3G FruitFones. www.apple.com runs on a
> LINUX server under APACHE 1.3.29 (Darwin)

as stated above, it does not run linux; it runs mac os x server.

> http://www.apache.org/
>
> Download it yourself from one of these mirrors:
> http://www.apache.org/mirrors/

already have it, thanks.

> They MIGHT be running Apache on a Windows Server box, I suppose. I was
> trying to be optimistic because Apple loves to tell everyone their OS is
> Unix.....(c;

mac os x is fully certified unix.

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Not as long as Apple is playing the old "hold back" game only selling 3000
> units per store trying to prevent discounting.

apple doesn't allow discounting no matter how many units are in stock...
but apple doesn't allow overstock either so it's not a problem

> Sellphone sales are measured in the tens of MILLIONS not thousands. All
> the 3Gs so far manufactured is akin to a grain of sand to the Sahara
> Desert.

yes, and apple sold about 1.3 million iphones in the last 72 hours, and
your point?

> Stevies' gonna hafta open up those warehouses and release the product if he
> wants to make a pimple in sellphone sales.....

the goal is 1%, and they were at 0.8% when they sold out of iPhone 1.0's
a month ago. so everything is right on target.

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720082027246011%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac
> os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're
> all running mac os x server.
>
>

Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have
here are little desktop and laptops.

Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms??

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
>
> But, they need some more horsepower in the processors and bandwidth in the
> pipe if they're gonna keep doing stupid things like releasing an upgrade
> download on the same day as a new device.
>
> Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop it....

Apache is not related to Linux... every Mac ships with Apache and has
for YEARS...

The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would die
to have.

In article <Xns9ADB29FE1BA0noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720082027246011%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
> > it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac
> > os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're
> > all running mac os x server.
>
> Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have
> here are little desktop and laptops.

any mac can run mac os x server, although apple has rack mount hardware
that's better suited for high demand installations. for home or small
business, a mac mini is often sufficient.

also, the consumer version of os x includes things such as apache and
vpn, they just need to be enabled and configured.

> Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms??

i provided two in the previous post, one of which is included below.

<http://www.apple.com/xserve/>
<http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/>

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in
news:davmoy-76BB5A.22175813072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Leve
l3.net:

> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software.
>>
>> But, they need some more horsepower in the processors and bandwidth
>> in the pipe if they're gonna keep doing stupid things like releasing
>> an upgrade download on the same day as a new device.
>>
>> Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop
>> it....
>
> Apache is not related to Linux... every Mac ships with Apache and has
> for YEARS...
>
> The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would
> die to have.
>

Please tell me they're not trying to run servers for the whole company on
Macs......are they?....(c;

At 13 Jul 2008 17:14:22 -0600 David Moyer wrote:

> apple has the best servers on the planet, so it just goes to show how
> POPULAR the iPhone has become...
>
> If microsoft was trying to do this, people would be dying off of old age
> in the streets before they got to the front of the line :)

Not really, because the Windows Mobile OS isn't so locked down that it has
to get permission from the mothership before it's allowed to make a phone
call!

> larry, please THINK before you post.


Maybe Apple should think before they "pre-brick..." They're already
restricting sales to customers signing two-year contracts- for what reason
on God's Green Earth does the phone need to contact Cupertino to receive
permission to OPERATE?