iPhone negativity

Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
like me go to get get reliable info?

anonymousNetUser <mickey@disney.com> wrote:

> Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> like me go to get get reliable info?

you can always ask me, I don't hold any bias either way.

what is your question...

anonymousNetUser <mickey@disney.com> wrote in news:R0zek.20713$1L1.737
@newsfe15.phx:

> Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> like me go to get get reliable info?
>

I'm sorry if we may have presented you with this vision. I don't think
any of us who post here hate any piece of hardware, or even software.
What we seek is to convey "Truth in Advertising", against a hard core of
Apple fanbois who think Apple can do no wrong, make no mistakes, and
build products 20 years ahead of everyone else, which is simply not
true.

Seeking to point out any products flaws, omissions, in sellphones
especially the hobbling up of common functions users expect to function,
is, of course, not appreciated by those blindly following the company's
hype. Each product from any manufacturer needs to be thoroughly
investigated and reported for all to see, so the more savvy don't get
taken in the sales process.

Simply put, if it's crap, it should be reported as crap.

The Iphone 3G, a modification of 2G, is simply an Ipod and internet
browser with a built in mediocre sellphone lacking many common features
most sellphones of any price include....like voice dialing, Bluetooth
Stereo headphone support, great reception and audio quality, a good
speakerphone, a loud ringer if you desire it loud.

This product is NOT just the finest piece of equipment that will ever be
kluged together from a stack of chip makers. It's cute, it's a chick
magnet of sorts, it's pretty....it's not revolutionary.

Stick around and dump on us what you find out. They make a lot of noise
and call you nasty names like a bunch of teenagers under a bridge with
chains and knives, but it's just noise.

All this matters not, anyways as Apple is holding up the product to keep
the fanbois drooling who are still waiting for theirs....to prevent
discounting too soon. It didn't work with the 2G model as discounting
was nearly immediate at that awful price point. 3G has them on a "time
payment plan" with ATT acting as the collection agency/banker. 3G
phones are NOT $199 once you've made the awful monthly payments for 2
years. Do the math.

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-F4FE62.21100913072008
@news.qwest.net:

> you can always ask me, I don't hold any bias either way.
>
> what is your question...
>

Will it play Flash movies?

Will it play embedded RealVideo from BBC?

Will it play Divx movies?

Can I change the battery if it goes dead during the day, like my sellphone?

Does it have an external memory card slot so I can swap movies and music
around at my whim?

Can I cut text and pictures out of a webpage and save them to its word
processor or notepad and store them on its memory for later?

Can I cut text out of a webpage and email it as an attachment to my
girlfriend's computer?

Can I send my girlfriend an SMS on Verizon to have sex with her at lunch?

Can I install Skype for Mobile or Skype for sellphones so I can chat with
my friends on Skype in Siberia, or will I still have to carry my
Playstation PSP to call them? What about other VoIP systems like Gizmo?

Will it record video of my kids waterskiiing for the first time?

Can I download music, movies, ebooks, PDF files from usenet or peer-2-peer
and play them from the memory?

Can I watch international TV on a stand-alone player in full screen mode?

.....valid questions....eh?

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Will it play Flash movies?

not until Adobe comes out with their cell version

> Will it play embedded RealVideo from BBC?

and why would you want to play anything in .rm format?

> Will it play Divx movies?

not needed, just play them in MPEG4

> Can I change the battery if it goes dead during the day, like my sellphone?

not needed, the battery in the iphone lasts longer than you need

> Does it have an external memory card slot so I can swap movies and music
> around at my whim?

just use the internet as your memory card, sounds like you've never used
a mac.

> Can I cut text and pictures out of a webpage and save them to its word
> processor or notepad and store them on its memory for later?

not needed, sounds like you've never used a mac.

> Can I cut text out of a webpage and email it as an attachment to my
> girlfriend's computer?

just send her the real thing, sounds like you've never used a mac.

> Can I send my girlfriend an SMS on Verizon to have sex with her at lunch?

yes, of course.

> Can I install Skype for Mobile or Skype for sellphones so I can chat with
> my friends on Skype in Siberia, or will I still have to carry my
> Playstation PSP to call them? What about other VoIP systems like Gizmo?

yes, of course.

> Will it record video of my kids waterskiiing for the first time?

yes, of course.

> Can I download music, movies, ebooks, PDF files from usenet or peer-2-peer
> and play them from the memory?

yes, of course.

> Can I watch international TV on a stand-alone player in full screen mode?
>
> ....valid questions....eh?

yes, of course.

but do you have any serious questions?

In article <Xns9ADB25758B35noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Will it play Flash movies?

adobe has demoed flash and another person has ported flash lite.
>
> Will it play embedded RealVideo from BBC?

real is a proprietary protocol and it's up to them to write a player.
so far, they've not announced anything.
>
> Will it play Divx movies?

vlc has been ported.
>
> Can I change the battery if it goes dead during the day, like my sellphone?

you could, but it's inconvenient. for most people the battery will
last the whole day, so this is moot.
>
> Does it have an external memory card slot so I can swap movies and music
> around at my whim?

it has enough internal memory for the vast majority of users.
>
> Can I send my girlfriend an SMS on Verizon to have sex with her at lunch?

you could but she might say no.

> Can I install Skype for Mobile or Skype for sellphones so I can chat with
> my friends on Skype in Siberia, or will I still have to carry my
> Playstation PSP to call them? What about other VoIP systems like Gizmo?

right now there's <http://s4iphone.com/index_iphone.jsp>

there is also truephone and fring, and i'm sure more will appear.

> Will it record video of my kids waterskiiing for the first time?

video recording was demoed months ago.
>
> Can I download music, movies, ebooks, PDF files from usenet or peer-2-peer
> and play them from the memory?

yes, but not from usenet or p2p. and with major isps such as verizon
and time warner dropping usenet, it's somewhat moot. nevertheless
there's nothing precluding someone from writing a newsreader or p2p
client, other than exceeding cell bandwidth usage. over wifi it should
be fine.
>
> Can I watch international TV on a stand-alone player in full screen mode?

i've not seen that yet, but no doubt it's coming. there's streaming
radio already.

In article <R0zek.20713$1L1.737@newsfe15.phx>, anonymousNetUser
<mickey@disney.com> wrote:

> Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> like me go to get get reliable info?

I would suggest Howard Forums.

http://www.howardforums.com/forumdis...ysprune=&f=115

--
Charles

"anonymousNetUser" <mickey@disney.com> wrote in message
news:R0zek.20713$1L1.737@newsfe15.phx...
> Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> like me go to get get reliable info?

Check out a TILT

anonymousNetUser wrote:
> Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> like me go to get get reliable info?
>
Actually, I think you're misreading the newsgroup and way misjudging its
value. As you can tell from this thread alone, there are strong advoates of,
and strong naysayers of, the iPhone here. You can not get BETTER
information than from a group where BOTH sides are offered; where debate
rages freely. Your apparent "dream" newsgroup where everyone loves the
iPhone would never be a source of reliable information.

Your "knowledge" will come from reading everything that's posted here, for
as long as you can take it. :-) Then make your own judgments from what you
read.

I'm not (yet) an iPhone user, nor am I an AT&T customer, but I come here to
learn as much about the iPhone as possible.

On Jul 14, 5:24*am, Charles <fort...@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <R0zek.20713$1L1....@newsfe15.phx>, anonymousNetUser
>
> <mic...@disney.com> wrote:
> > Since this newsgroup seems to hate the iPhone, where could an old fart
> > like me go to get get reliable info?
>
> I would suggest Howard Forums.
>
> http://www.howardforums.com/forumdis...ysprune=&f=115
>
> --
> Charles

BINGO!

The first truly valid post in this thread. I recommend HowardForums
also.

Another way to farm the Internet for iPhone info is to set up an Alert
Summary of iPhone news using a Goggle bot.

Don't forget that Apple has a great multimedia web site devoted to
passing on help on understanding their products and how to use them.

Still another is do a search for iPhone on Digg and while viewing the
results save it as an RSS FEED if you know how. Iit will become an
excellent source for farming the net for useful information long
before people like Larry even become remotely aware of breaking
developments. Larry BTW is aware of the truth but likes to take a
contrarin position just for the hell of it.
I like Larry. I think of him as like that uncle Rev Wright that Obama
has.

Some of the others I see here merely like to spread FUD which in the
case fo the iPhone stands for CRAP. You see those who spread it are
full of it!

FUD is another way of deceiving people by appealing to Fear
Uncertainty and Doubt. It is fascinating to see what they come up with
IMHO.