Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs

The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:

> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a
> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were
> sold to consumers and activated.

All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate.

The Bob wrote:

> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a
> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were
> sold to consumers and activated.

In some cases it was a voucher for a phones. They wouldn't let a phone
out of the store unless it was activated, and they couldn't activate all
the phones that they had due to server problems. Still, presuming that
everyone with a voucher actually gets the phone, it appears that a
million will have been sold in 21 countries. Pretty good, though not as
good as the original iPhone which sold 700K units, in less time, in the
U.S..

anon <anon@anon.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:anon-25D427.19135515072008@news.giganews.com:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is
> accurate.

But all phones were not activated in an APPLE store- they had to sell stock
to the carriers so that they could sell them in their stores. So it is
very probable that Apple sold more phones than were activated.

"anon" <anon@anon.com> wrote in message
news:anon-25D427.19135515072008@news.giganews.com...
> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were
>> sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate.

Not true. When the apple servers could not keep up, AT&T Were telling buyers
of the iPhone they had to do the activation at home. And you think that
Apple and AT&T Are going to tell the truth to how many were sold ?
Think again.

anon <anon@anon.com> wrote in
news:anon-25D427.19135515072008@news.giganews.com:

> The Bob <nospam@bob.com> wrote:
>
>> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is
> accurate.
>

A little perspective for comparison:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2119280,00.asp

PC Mag says sellphone sales have dropped sharply because of economic
conditions and most people already have phones and contracts. The first 3
months of 2008, all phone sales was 256,400,000 units. Nokia, numero uno
in sales sold 91,100,000 of those. All these figures are down quite a bit
from 2006.

256,400,000 in 90 days divides, add 1, carry the 2, count on my fingers,
about 2,848,888 phones a day, normal sales.

After all the holding and drooling, 1M sales was impressive, if it was
true, but is not sustainable like the 2,848,888 phones sold every day, ad
nauseum, by the big boys.

Is it any wonder your call drops?...(c;

http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_ap...n_iphone_c.php

That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot. According
to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over that time
period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's numbers,
it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one million mark.

The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales,
logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped to
wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out of
Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them are
in the hands of consumers.

"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in message
news:i6Kdna86VZG5rePVnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews.com ...
> http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_ap...n_iphone_c.php
>
> That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot.
> According to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over
> that time period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's
> numbers, it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one
> million mark.
> The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales,
> logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped
> to wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out
> of Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them
> are in the hands of consumers.

While true, it's also how all phone manufacturers could their sales, so when
Motorola brags they sold their 60 millionth (or whatever) Razr the same rule
applies, so this isn't some number-fluffing trickery that's exclusive to
Apple.

In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.
Apple doesn't count phones "sold" to their own stores' inventory as sales-
only phones sold at retail, whereas Motorola or Samsung do not operate
retail stores- ever "sale" they report was a wholesale sale to a distributor
or carrier- not to an end-user.

And, frankly, from Apple's (or Nokia's, Motorola's et al's) perspective, the
retail sales (at AT&T stores) don't matter now that the revenue sharing
deals are gone. Apple only gets paid when AT&T buys the product- not when
it's activated.

On 2008-07-16, Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
> manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.

I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
believe Nokia also does.

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At 16 Jul 2008 21:52:48 +0000 Steve Sobol wrote:

> I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
> believe Nokia also does.


Fair enough, but in the US carrier-subsidized market, online sales of
either manufacturer have to be negligible compared to Apple's store sales,
which sells subsidized phones on AT& service.

Unless things have changed recently, clicking to buy most Nokia phones from
the Nokia USA site redirected you the "Let's Talk" website and tried to set
you up on a new service plan- precious few Nokia phones on the website are
available direct- just a few unlocked GSM models.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:45:42 -0600, David Moyer <davmoy@world.com>
wrote:

>Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
Over 50 million, that is correct 50 millions blackberry Pearls have
been sold. So Apple, step back, and sit down, and SHUT UP.