3G iPHONE leads all 3G Phones in Battery Life!!!!!!!

RBM wrote:
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
> news:487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> 4phun wrote:
>>> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G
>>> iPhone sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>>
>>> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>>> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>>> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>>
>>> Ha HA Boo Hah
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>> I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this
>> point by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test"
>> done under non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery
>> "beats" some other battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage
>> figures posted on new cars, figures which have little relationship
>> to real-world driving. Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx
>> once a year. The
>> one-way trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not
>> counting potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7
>> hours I'm on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of
>> 'other' time wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie
>> on the thing, will the battery last me for that long? What do I do
>> if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even worse, on the return trip
>> can I count on having enough battery life left to make a few phone
>> calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is picking me
>> up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT on
>> it, is the key operative phrase? Other phones' batteries may not last as
>> long in lab testing, but you
>> can bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being
>> operative if and when you really need it.
>>
>> I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to
>> home, and your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test
>> message or two to your friends after you've received a few phone
>> calls or listened to your tunes while you're at the gym for an hour,
>> and you're not worried because if your battery runs down you're not
>> that far from home, then we have different expectations and a way
>> different perspective on how we need our phones to operate.
>>
>> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to
>> ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being
>> fearful of using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>>
>> See Carl, you've got it all wrong, the way these folks think is more
>> like: if apple doesn't make it, you're an idiot for wanting it. You
>> can buy an apple doohickey to do anything apple wants you to do with
>> their toys, but God forbid you don't feel like sitting with your
>> portable toy plugged into and outlet, a pc, or charger of any sort
>> and just want to carry a spare battery on your camping trip or
>> whatever, geese, what kind of moron are you
>
There does seem to be that mentality RBM, I agree. As I said in another
post, some of these guys are willing to adapt their world to the device
instead of expecting it to adapt to theirs. any of those recommendation were
silly, impractical, and immature.

It seems a little incongruous to me that some of them feel it's OK to have
this little, portable device, and EXPECT and ACCEPT that they'll be tethered
to the wall or a power pack that's larger than the phone itself. And they
think that's a solution for someone who bought a minitaure device- that
cables, power-packs, and wall sockets have to come along with it!

Some offered solutions that weren't unthinkable, but were often expensive
and/or added size and cumbersomeness. All to rationalize what could have
been an easy solution: make the battery pack user-changeable. Period.

In message <487c00bd$0$5009$607ed4bc@cv.net> "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>> http://store.mygearstore.com/41222.html
>>
>Now THERE'S a reasonable looking solution to the battery life problem I
>posed. Not like the foolish rantings of Ron. Not being an iPhone owner
>(yet), I didn't know that existed, or that it was a viable option for the
>iPhone (as opposed to the iPod). If the internal battery was completely
>dead, would that accessory sustain several phone calls on a pair of AA's?
>Thanks for the info.

http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:APC%20UP...ery:1994039128 is better,
it can power any device which needs can charge from USB.

Carl wrote:
> RBM wrote:
>
>>"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
>>news:487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>
>>>4phun wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G
>>>>iPhone sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>>>
>>>>Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>>>>battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>>>>is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>>>
>>>>Ha HA Boo Hah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>LOL
>>>>
>>>
>>>I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this
>>>point by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test"
>>>done under non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery
>>>"beats" some other battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage
>>>figures posted on new cars, figures which have little relationship
>>>to real-world driving. Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx
>>>once a year. The
>>>one-way trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not
>>>counting potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7
>>>hours I'm on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of
>>>'other' time wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie
>>>on the thing, will the battery last me for that long? What do I do
>>>if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even worse, on the return trip
>>>can I count on having enough battery life left to make a few phone
>>>calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is picking me
>>>up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT on
>>>it, is the key operative phrase? Other phones' batteries may not last as
>>>long in lab testing, but you
>>>can bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being
>>>operative if and when you really need it.
>>>
>>>I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to
>>>home, and your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test
>>>message or two to your friends after you've received a few phone
>>>calls or listened to your tunes while you're at the gym for an hour,
>>>and you're not worried because if your battery runs down you're not
>>>that far from home, then we have different expectations and a way
>>>different perspective on how we need our phones to operate.
>>>
>>>No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>>>user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to
>>>ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being
>>>fearful of using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>>>
>>>See Carl, you've got it all wrong, the way these folks think is more
>>>like: if apple doesn't make it, you're an idiot for wanting it. You
>>>can buy an apple doohickey to do anything apple wants you to do with
>>>their toys, but God forbid you don't feel like sitting with your
>>>portable toy plugged into and outlet, a pc, or charger of any sort
>>>and just want to carry a spare battery on your camping trip or
>>>whatever, geese, what kind of moron are you
>>
> There does seem to be that mentality RBM, I agree. As I said in another
> post, some of these guys are willing to adapt their world to the device
> instead of expecting it to adapt to theirs. any of those recommendation were
> silly, impractical, and immature.
>
> It seems a little incongruous to me that some of them feel it's OK to have
> this little, portable device, and EXPECT and ACCEPT that they'll be tethered
> to the wall or a power pack that's larger than the phone itself. And they
> think that's a solution for someone who bought a minitaure device- that
> cables, power-packs, and wall sockets have to come along with it!
>
> Some offered solutions that weren't unthinkable, but were often expensive
> and/or added size and cumbersomeness. All to rationalize what could have
> been an easy solution: make the battery pack user-changeable. Period.


Gotta remember, they are first and foremost fanbois...

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
news:487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide
> to ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of
> using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>
>
>

I think I've found a solution!
http://www.earthtechproducts.com/p2649.html
Should keep a FruitFone running for days, especially if you leave it in the
sun!

It may be the ONLY solution.....(c;

In message <apony-6709EB.18585114072008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>
Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote:

>the iPhone battery will last over 20 hours for music, it's just 3G that
>really sucks power.

I'm still weirded out by this one, on my RAZR2v9, 3G mode was far better
on my battery.

On my TILT I believe the same, although I haven't actually tested it.

Does Apple have a fantastic EDGE chip, or a poor 3G chip?

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:34:29 -0400, "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>Ron wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Carl"
>> <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 4phun wrote:
>>>> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G
>>>> iPhone sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>>>
>>>> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>>>> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>>>> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>>>
>>>> Ha HA Boo Hah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>> I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this
>>> point by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test"
>>> done under non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery
>>> "beats" some other battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage
>>> figures posted on new cars, figures which have little relationship
>>> to real-world driving.
>>>
>>> Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx once a year. The
>>> one-way trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not
>>> counting potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7
>>> hours I'm on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of
>>> 'other' time wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie
>>> on the thing, will the battery last me for that long? What do I do
>>> if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even worse, on the return trip
>>> can I count on having enough battery life left to make a few phone
>>> calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is picking me
>>> up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT on
>>> it, is the key operative phrase?
>>>
>>> Other phones' batteries may not last as long in lab testing, but you
>>> can bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being
>>> operative if and when you really need it.
>>>
>>> I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to
>>> home, and your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test
>>> message or two to your friends after you've received a few phone
>>> calls or listened to your tunes while you're at the gym for an hour,
>>> and you're not worried because if your battery runs down you're not
>>> that far from home, then we have different expectations and a way
>>> different perspective on how we need our phones to operate.
>>>
>>> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>>> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should
>>> decide to ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being
>>> fearful of using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>>>
>> Sorry you have such trouble with your plane travels.
>>
>> For very little you can get a thingie to plug your iPhone into power
>> at your plane seat and keep it fully charged. Also many people charge
>> devices in their car, its new technology you may not have heard of its
>> called a "car Charger".
>>
>> http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...i_sku=10326243
>>
>> When I fly I sit just outside the Continental Airlines Presidents
>> club. I can plug into a standard AC outlet in the wall
>> (for my Apple Pismo laptop), and use the open WiFi of Continental.
>>
>1. It must be very uncomfortable sitting outside that club while the plane
>is flying.


Meanwhile you ignore my link to a charger that allows you to charge an
iPhone while on a Plane.

>

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Some offered solutions that weren't unthinkable, but were often expensive
> and/or added size and cumbersomeness. All to rationalize what could have
> been an easy solution: make the battery pack user-changeable. Period.

what are you trying to do Carl? it seems like with every valid solution
you balk and want to somehow not carry an extra battery for the iphone,
but will carry an extra one for the other types of smartphones.

i think you'll be shocked at how long the battery lasts in the iphone,
it will be plenty for a flight to mexico... just make sure bluetooth,
3G, wifi is off and you'll have no problem.

if you don't believe me, get a little $4 battery pack, get some lithium
AA batteries and you'll be fine for the flight back as well.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> > here is one of many solutions:
> >
> > http://store.mygearstore.com/41222.html
> >
> Now THERE'S a reasonable looking solution to the battery life problem I
> posed. Not like the foolish rantings of Ron. Not being an iPhone owner
> (yet), I didn't know that existed, or that it was a viable option for the
> iPhone (as opposed to the iPod). If the internal battery was completely
> dead, would that accessory sustain several phone calls on a pair of AA's?
> Thanks for the info.

yes, should give you around 8 hours more of talk time if your internal
battery is dead (which would be very unlikely)... i assume that's using
alkaline batteries, probably much more if you go with lithium.

That's a very small set of phones, not "all 3G phones": Palm Treo 750,
Palm Centro, Motorola Q9 Global, Samsung Ace, Pantech Duo, AT&T Tilt, LG
EnV, HTC Touch Dual, Samsung Instinct, iPhone 3G.

I have two 3G phones which have much longer battery lives than any of
these.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

At 14 Jul 2008 14:34:22 -0700 4phun wrote:
> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G iPhone
> sucks because of its little built in battery.

No, that aspect of it's design sucks because of the little NON-SWAPPABLE
battery.


You seem awfully chipper pointing to a chart from an article titled: "3G
iPhone's Mediocre Battery Life Still Beats Rivals..."

http://www.pcworld.com/article/148348/

(Of course, you only linked to the chart - not to the less-than-glowing
article that spawned it. Hmmm....) *

> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
> battery life of all 3G phones!

No, it had the best battery life of the TEN smartphones PC World tested and
put in the chart. No Nokia phone is listed, 3G "dumphones" like the Moto
Razrs aren't listed, and I don't see any Blackberries. My wife's work-
issued Blackberry runs so damn long compared to our WinMo phones, I've
always suspected RIM has mastered Cold Fusion and just never told anyone...


> It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>
> Ha HA Boo Hah


By about five minutes. Very impressive.


> Here is the offical chart to view at your leisure...

Oh, let's fix that link for you, 4phun:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/148348/

So the iPhone's battery life sucks a little less than the other phones
tested. Wheee...

PC World said of that stellar performance: "the 3G iPhone beat out therest
of the current 3G smart-phone pack, most of which fell shy of the 5-hour
mark that's the cutoff between a word score of Fair and one of Poor inour
performance ratings."

Wow. The iPhone's battery life is "fair" instead of "poor." I wonderif
Apple will add that to the brochure?

My AT&T Tilt's battery life (coming in nearly an hour shorter than the
iPhone's on that chart) is absolutely terrible. (Or should I say 'poor'?)
I REALLY feel for the owners of the five phones on the chart that the Tilt
beat. Hopefully those phones come with an external batery pack- maybe
something along the lines of a backpack with a 12V deep-cycle marine
battery in it! ;-)

Looking at the chart you linked, I should be thrilled with the Tilt's
battery life- it's 80+% of the iPhone's! If that's the case, the iPhone
would get maybe 15 hours of life from my usage pattern compared to the12
my Tilt gets. Wheeee...

PC World summed it up with: "the good news for 3G iPhone owners is that
they're probably better off than other 3G handset owners in terms of
battery life. But that won't help when your 3G iPhone stops running atthe
end of a long and busy day."