3G iPHONE leads all 3G Phones in Battery Life!!!!!!!

On Jul 15, 10:53*am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Please see my post, somewhere above, on a typical plane trip I might take,
> and consider whether you would count on that battery lasting for you through
> that day. And I mean DEPEND on it, as if the phone part might be imminently
> important to you at the end of that day.

s/imminently/eminently I think. But anyway: Maybe I am such a
stimulating person that I energize the electronics around me, or maybe
the 3G just sucks - I don't know - but I do know that the 1st gen
iPhone battery meets all my needs. I don't use video at all, and I
strongly discourage people from calling me in voice mode; I primarily
use SMS and email, plus audio playback. I do a lot of email (mostly
wifi) and SMS during the day.

On a "bad day" where I have been listening to the iPod for a
significant percentage of the day while working, without power, I
usually get the 20% battery warning on my drive home, but of course I
have a car adapter to recharge it. I don't spend entire days traveling
on airplanes with no source of external power - and if I did, I would
not find it onerous to carry a couple of AA cells in a battery
extender.

I don't know the reasons why Apple chose to make the battery
nonremovable in all these appliances - of course we all suspect
"sleek" beat "replaceable" but nobody will ever know for sure. But it
doesn't make the device a non-starter for my lifestyle - and clearly
for many others it's the same story. I bought the iPhone because I
already carried a BlackBerry 7290 and 60GB iPod, and I was considering
purchase of a N800. The iPhone means one device to carry, one device
to remember to charge, and it's $30/mo cheaper to run than a
Blackberry with unlimited data. And a much more powerful web browser,
which is important to me.

On Jul 15, 2:45*am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> PC World summed it up with: "the good news for 3G iPhone owners is that
> they're probably better off than other 3G handset owners in terms of
> battery life. But that won't help when your 3G iPhone stops running at the

Hmm. If you turn off 3G do you get exactly the same battery life as in
the 1st gen iPhone?

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Now we have a device that is actually four devices in one: a phone, an
> internet browser, a music player, and a video player (did I miss anything).
> Oh yeah, a PDA of sorts too. Five-in-one. And we're expecting it to last all
> day on one battery. It will. If you don't use it.

no, no Carl... apple provided for all of those uses with an appropriate
sized battery, they wouldn't have built it unless they knew a user would
be satisfied.

> Please see my post, somewhere above, on a typical plane trip I might take,
> and consider whether you would count on that battery lasting for you through
> that day. And I mean DEPEND on it, as if the phone part might be imminently
> important to you at the end of that day.

it will work fine for your intended trip, it lasts far longer than you
might think. again turn off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and you'll be fine.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> > Meanwhile you ignore my link to a charger that allows you to charge an
> > iPhone while on a Plane.
> >
> I apologize. I didn't ignore it. I just neglected to addres it. Not a bad
> solution, I'll admit. But do all airlines provide 15V power jacks at all
> seats? I may not have looked, and I have to admit ignorance here, but I've
> never noticed one at the seats I have to sit in!.

you can check if your plane does here:

http://www.seatguru.com/articles/in-...ptop_power.php

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-7176EF.13331715072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Now we have a device that is actually four devices in one: a phone, an
>> internet browser, a music player, and a video player (did I miss
>> anything).
>> Oh yeah, a PDA of sorts too. Five-in-one. And we're expecting it to last
>> all
>> day on one battery. It will. If you don't use it.
>
> no, no Carl... apple provided for all of those uses with an appropriate
> sized battery, they wouldn't have built it unless they knew a user would
> be satisfied.
>
>> Please see my post, somewhere above, on a typical plane trip I might
>> take,
>> and consider whether you would count on that battery lasting for you
>> through
>> that day. And I mean DEPEND on it, as if the phone part might be
>> imminently
>> important to you at the end of that day.
>
> it will work fine for your intended trip, it lasts far longer than you
> might think. again turn off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and you'll be fine.

Or just turn off the iPhone and it will last much longer. :)

Battery has a hard time lasting one day.

I've seen major slowdown with the 2.0 update. Menu's are in slow motion.
Contacts are slow to appear.
Typing can't keep up with input.

Google slowdown after 2.0 firmware update.
Glad I don't own this POS...

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> > it will work fine for your intended trip, it lasts far longer than you
> > might think. again turn off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and you'll be fine.
>
> Or just turn off the iPhone and it will last much longer. :)
>
> Battery has a hard time lasting one day.

not the iphone battery, it lasts a bout a week with general use... 2, 3
days with hard use

> I've seen major slowdown with the 2.0 update. Menu's are in slow motion.
> Contacts are slow to appear.
> Typing can't keep up with input.

liar! 2.0 runs the same speed as 1.0. it's fast...

> Google slowdown after 2.0 firmware update.

nope...

> Glad I don't own this POS...

and the iphone doesn't deserve liars

In message <487c9198$0$20929$607ed4bc@cv.net> "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>DevilsPGD wrote:
>> In message <487c00bd$0$5009$607ed4bc@cv.net> "Carl"
>> <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://store.mygearstore.com/41222.html
>>>>
>>> Now THERE'S a reasonable looking solution to the battery life
>>> problem I posed. Not like the foolish rantings of Ron. Not being an
>>> iPhone owner (yet), I didn't know that existed, or that it was a
>>> viable option for the iPhone (as opposed to the iPod). If the
>>> internal battery was completely dead, would that accessory sustain
>>> several phone calls on a pair of AA's? Thanks for the info.
>>
>> http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:APC%20UP...ery:1994039128 is
>> better, it can power any device which needs can charge from USB.
>>
>Thanks for that. The list of alternative solutions to the non-replaceable
>battery problem is growing.

That's the guy I carry (or a similar one), it can recharge nearly any of
my devices. I also carry it's big brother, which can run my laptop for
several hours, that guy also has a USB power out.

Another option, which I have not personally tried, is a fuel cell:

http://mytreo.net/store/xproduct.php?xProd=1126

I'm sure you can get it elsewhere, probably with just the iPod tip
rather then adding another $3 for it, I just happened to have the link
handy due to the fact that mytreo was one of the first vendors to offer
this particular product.

Plenty of choices. Personally, I'd rather carry one external battery
that is capable of recharging all of my devices then to purchase
individual spare batteries for each of my devices and try to juggle
charging each of those spares -- However, I travel gadget heavy.

Conversely, for those few trips where I don't travel gadget heavy, I can
definitely see the appeal of a single replaceable battery. My only
objection is that I never manage to charge the replaceable battery
unless I carry a dedicated charger, I tend to forget to swap batteries
in the device when I am recharging.

In message <487c97c4$0$20933$607ed4bc@cv.net> "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>I'm not sure I get your direction here. I'm not balking at carrying an extra
>battery for the iPhone. But the suggestions don't entail carrying an extra
>battery since that's not possible with the iPhone. An extra battery for my
>BB (or for my last Motorola) is about 3 sq in and weighs a fraction of an
>ounce. It's not a box that's the same height, width, and greater in
>thickness than the phone itself. And it doesn't require an external hook up
>along with its related cable. What a cumbersome arrangement for a small,
>portable device. We used to call these types of alternatives "patchwork"
>solutions in the old days.

While I can't disagree, let me offer the flipside.

I carry an AT&T TILT, external GPS (for use with my laptop), a laptop, a
Treo 680 (well, I'm selling it), plus a couple other goodies.

For me, an external battery solution makes sense for a couple reasons:

1) I can use it with all of my devices.

2) I can charge it.

#2 is the killer, when I was carrying a spare Treo 680 battery, it
always worked great until the first time I used it, then I'd never
manage to get it recharged unless I carried a dedicated charger with me
at all times.

With the external battery, I carry one USB power source, the external
battery, and one power cable for each device along with the device. This
allows me to charge both the external battery as well as the device when
I have wall power.

The other thing to remember is that an external battery is bigger for a
reason: The little APC unit I carry has several times the battery
capacity of the iPhone's internal battery. Even if the iPhone's battery
was easily swappable in the field, I'd still have to carry several of
them to equal the power of one external unit.

Each to their own I suppose -- I don't even own an iPhone at this point,
so I have no personal bias, but I can tell you that for my own devices,
I've stopped buying spare batteries and moved to the external units.

"Oxford" <apony@pasture.com> wrote in message
news:apony-E640CA.13525915072008@news.qwest.net...
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > it will work fine for your intended trip, it lasts far longer than you
>> > might think. again turn off 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth and you'll be fine.
>>
>> Or just turn off the iPhone and it will last much longer. :)
>>
>> Battery has a hard time lasting one day.
>
> not the iphone battery, it lasts a bout a week with general use... 2, 3
> days with hard use

Total Bull and you know it.
>
>> I've seen major slowdown with the 2.0 update. Menu's are in slow motion.
>> Contacts are slow to appear.
>> Typing can't keep up with input.
>
> liar! 2.0 runs the same speed as 1.0. it's fast...
>
>> Google slowdown after 2.0 firmware update.

Yeah I make this up. Google it. I played with my friends today after he
updated it. It's much slower.
But all the other's on google are wrong becuase you say it's not.
>
> nope...
>
>> Glad I don't own this POS...
>
> and the iphone doesn't deserve liars

It should. They need all the help they can get.

> Meanwhile you ignore my link to a charger that allows you to charge an
> iPhone while on a Plane.

Except most planes DO NOT HAVE the necessary jack for it. Out of a dozen
recent international trips NONE had the jack. I can really only recall
seeing it ONCE during a domestic flight.