3G iPHONE leads all 3G Phones in Battery Life!!!!!!!

This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G iPhone
sucks because of its little built in battery.

Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!

Ha HA Boo Hah

Here is the offical chart to view at your leisure...

http://mobilitysite.com/wp-content/u...b9ac7419bb.jpg

http://mobilitysite.com/wp-content/u...b9ac7419bb.jpg

More on Gizmodo and PC World and a raft of others...

LOL

4phun wrote:
> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G iPhone
> sucks because of its little built in battery.
>
> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>
> Ha HA Boo Hah
>
>
> LOL
>
I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this point
by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test" done under
non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery "beats" some other
battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage figures posted on new cars,
figures which have little relationship to real-world driving.

Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx once a year. The one-way
trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not counting
potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7 hours I'm on a
plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of 'other' time wasted in
airports, even leaving out watching a movie on the thing, will the battery
last me for that long? What do I do if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even
worse, on the return trip can I count on having enough battery life left to
make a few phone calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is
picking me up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT
on it, is the key operative phrase?

Other phones' batteries may not last as long in lab testing, but you can
bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being operative if
and when you really need it.

I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to home, and
your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test message or two to
your friends after you've received a few phone calls or listened to your
tunes while you're at the gym for an hour, and you're not worried because if
your battery runs down you're not that far from home, then we have different
expectations and a way different perspective on how we need our phones to
operate.

No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to ge
an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of using it for
the reasons mentioned above.

On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Carl"
<crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

>4phun wrote:
>> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G iPhone
>> sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>
>> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>
>> Ha HA Boo Hah
>>
>>
>> LOL
>>
>I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this point
>by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test" done under
>non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery "beats" some other
>battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage figures posted on new cars,
>figures which have little relationship to real-world driving.
>
>Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx once a year. The one-way
>trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not counting
>potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7 hours I'm on a
>plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of 'other' time wasted in
>airports, even leaving out watching a movie on the thing, will the battery
>last me for that long? What do I do if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even
>worse, on the return trip can I count on having enough battery life left to
>make a few phone calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is
>picking me up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT
>on it, is the key operative phrase?
>
>Other phones' batteries may not last as long in lab testing, but you can
>bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being operative if
>and when you really need it.
>
>I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to home, and
>your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test message or two to
>your friends after you've received a few phone calls or listened to your
>tunes while you're at the gym for an hour, and you're not worried because if
>your battery runs down you're not that far from home, then we have different
>expectations and a way different perspective on how we need our phones to
>operate.
>
>No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to ge
>an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of using it for
>the reasons mentioned above.
>
Sorry you have such trouble with your plane travels.

For very little you can get a thingie to plug your iPhone into power
at your plane seat and keep it fully charged. Also many people charge
devices in their car, its new technology you may not have heard of its
called a "car Charger".

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...i_sku=10326243

When I fly I sit just outside the Continental Airlines Presidents
club. I can plug into a standard AC outlet in the wall
(for my Apple Pismo laptop), and use the open WiFi of Continental.

In article <487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to ge
> an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of using it for
> the reasons mentioned above.

no, you are incorrect. that's more about an UNEDUCATED public since
people still don't realize that apple is using lithium ion batteries so
the need to replace them on the fly isn't necessary like it was 5-10
years ago. Apple is just ahead of the public, and of course your
"uneducated" comment continues to show this ignorance.

if you want more battery power, just take it! there are PLENTY of
battery extenders for the iPhone, just get one and be done with it.

http://www.jr.com/kensington/pe/KEG_33396/

http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/12/...y.pack.debuts/

http://fastmac.com/iv.php

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not counting
> potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7 hours I'm on a
> plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of 'other' time wasted in
> airports, even leaving out watching a movie on the thing, will the battery
> last me for that long? What do I do if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even
> worse, on the return trip can I count on having enough battery life left to
> make a few phone calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is
> picking me up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT
> on it, is the key operative phrase?

the iPhone battery will last over 20 hours for music, it's just 3G that
really sucks power.

You can always bring along a 2nd battery pack for the iPhone and just
use regular AA batteries until your heart is content.

here is one of many solutions:

http://store.mygearstore.com/41222.html

Nobody beats Apple in battery life, their Laptops are the same way...
lasting around 20% more than anyone else. Apple has many more resources
and has been working on battery life since the late 80's. Companies like
Samsung, Nokia, Motorola simply can't built devices that last as long,
they don't have the expertise.

Even simple things like "proximity sensors" that sense the "mass of your
head" when you are talking, and power down unneeded features is
something most of the other phone makers don't know how to do...

Get an iPhone, it's the best on the market by far.

"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> 4phun wrote:
>> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G iPhone
>> sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>
>> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>
>> Ha HA Boo Hah
>>
>>
>> LOL
>>
> I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this point
> by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test" done under
> non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery "beats" some other
> battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage figures posted on new
> cars, figures which have little relationship to real-world driving.
>
> Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx once a year. The
> one-way trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not
> counting potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7 hours
> I'm on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of 'other' time
> wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie on the thing, will
> the battery last me for that long? What do I do if it doesn't? Do I have
> an option? Even worse, on the return trip can I count on having enough
> battery life left to make a few phone calls, like to locate my car service
> or meet whomever is picking me up, after using the device for 10 hours on
> the trip? Can I COUNT on it, is the key operative phrase?
>
> Other phones' batteries may not last as long in lab testing, but you can
> bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being operative
> if and when you really need it.
>
> I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to home,
> and your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test message or
> two to your friends after you've received a few phone calls or listened to
> your tunes while you're at the gym for an hour, and you're not worried
> because if your battery runs down you're not that far from home, then we
> have different expectations and a way different perspective on how we need
> our phones to operate.
>
> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide to
> ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of using it
> for the reasons mentioned above.
>
>See Carl, you've got it all wrong, the way these folks think is more like:
>if apple doesn't make it, you're an idiot for wanting it. You can buy an
>apple doohickey to do anything apple wants you to do with their toys, but
>God forbid you don't feel like sitting with your portable toy plugged into
>and outlet, a pc, or charger of any sort and just want to carry a spare
>battery on your camping trip or whatever, geese, what kind of moron are you

David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> amazed us all with the following in
news:davmoy-FF1C50.19063414072008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com:

> In article <487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should decide
>> to ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being fearful of
>> using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>
> no, you are incorrect. that's more about an UNEDUCATED public since
> people still don't realize that apple is using lithium ion batteries

So are Motorola, LG, Samsung and Blackberry, to name a few. What's your
point?


> so the need to replace them on the fly isn't necessary like it was
> 5-10 years ago.

You won't understand the importance of this need, so I won't try to explain
it

> Apple is just ahead of the public,

They are ahead of the public by using very common battery technology? How
do you figure?

> and of course your
> "uneducated" comment continues to show this ignorance.

Actually, if I look for ignorant, uneducated comments, yours will do just
fine.

>
> if you want more battery power, just take it! there are PLENTY of
> battery extenders for the iPhone, just get one and be done with it.
>

Or gee, maybe I'd want to just swap out the battery with a fully charged
one, like I can with just about every other phone on the market.

Unlike you fanbois who readily push these "battery extenders," most of us
don't find the need to replicate the Bat Utility Belt.

Ron wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:25:59 -0400, "Carl"
> <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> 4phun wrote:
>>> This is a hoot with all the wannabe experts saying that the 3G
>>> iPhone sucks because of its little built in battery.
>>>
>>> Weekend tech tests show the 3G iPhone little battery has the best
>>> battery life of all 3G phones! It even beats Sprint's Instinct which
>>> is a less power hungry network for voice calls.!
>>>
>>> Ha HA Boo Hah
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>> I don't know what other people are saying, but I think you miss this
>> point by a long shot. It doesn't matter that in some lab "test"
>> done under non-real-world circumstances that the iPhone's battery
>> "beats" some other battery. That's like believing the gas-mileage
>> figures posted on new cars, figures which have little relationship
>> to real-world driving.
>>
>> Here's an example. I, for one, travel to Cabos, Mx once a year. The
>> one-way trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not
>> counting potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7
>> hours I'm on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of
>> 'other' time wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie
>> on the thing, will the battery last me for that long? What do I do
>> if it doesn't? Do I have an option? Even worse, on the return trip
>> can I count on having enough battery life left to make a few phone
>> calls, like to locate my car service or meet whomever is picking me
>> up, after using the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT on
>> it, is the key operative phrase?
>>
>> Other phones' batteries may not last as long in lab testing, but you
>> can bring an extra or two, or three, and COUNT on the device being
>> operative if and when you really need it.
>>
>> I don't know your life, but if you're a person who stays close to
>> home, and your only concern is if you can squeeze out an extra test
>> message or two to your friends after you've received a few phone
>> calls or listened to your tunes while you're at the gym for an hour,
>> and you're not worried because if your battery runs down you're not
>> that far from home, then we have different expectations and a way
>> different perspective on how we need our phones to operate.
>>
>> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should
>> decide to ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being
>> fearful of using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>>
> Sorry you have such trouble with your plane travels.
>
> For very little you can get a thingie to plug your iPhone into power
> at your plane seat and keep it fully charged. Also many people charge
> devices in their car, its new technology you may not have heard of its
> called a "car Charger".
>
> http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...i_sku=10326243
>
> When I fly I sit just outside the Continental Airlines Presidents
> club. I can plug into a standard AC outlet in the wall
> (for my Apple Pismo laptop), and use the open WiFi of Continental.
>
1. It must be very uncomfortable sitting outside that club while the plane
is flying.

2. It's becoming incredulous to me that there are actually guys like you
that actually advocate adapting your behavior to suit the limitations of the
device. Do you really mean this stuff or are you yanking my chain? So when
you fly with your wife and kids, you make sure to sit outside that club so
you can plug in? Unlike me, you never have to actually wait at the boarding
area before the plane is boarding, often for periods of time with delays? Do
you really fly or did you make that up? I fly several times a year. My
experiences wouldn't allow for those accommodations. Actually, you're being
silly even by recommending them.

3. Continental doesn't fly to Mexico.

4. I never said anything about car charging. You threw that in there to make
yourself sound smart, didn't you?

5. I never said I have "trouble with my plane travels". If you've never
flown past Chicago, I suppose you haven't experienced connecting flights to
countries that don't have direct flights.

6. Your failure to recognize these issues as shortcomings of the device and
to try to defend them with those ludicrous "solutions" makes you not a
credible advocate.

Oxford wrote:
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> trip takes me up to 9 or 10 hours with plane switching, not counting
>> potential delays. If I wanted to listen to songs for the 7 hours I'm
>> on a plane, and browse the internet for the 3 hours of 'other' time
>> wasted in airports, even leaving out watching a movie on the thing,
>> will the battery last me for that long? What do I do if it doesn't?
>> Do I have an option? Even worse, on the return trip can I count on
>> having enough battery life left to make a few phone calls, like to
>> locate my car service or meet whomever is picking me up, after using
>> the device for 10 hours on the trip? Can I COUNT on it, is the key
>> operative phrase?
>
> the iPhone battery will last over 20 hours for music, it's just 3G
> that really sucks power.
>
> You can always bring along a 2nd battery pack for the iPhone and just
> use regular AA batteries until your heart is content.
>
> here is one of many solutions:
>
> http://store.mygearstore.com/41222.html
>
Now THERE'S a reasonable looking solution to the battery life problem I
posed. Not like the foolish rantings of Ron. Not being an iPhone owner
(yet), I didn't know that existed, or that it was a viable option for the
iPhone (as opposed to the iPod). If the internal battery was completely
dead, would that accessory sustain several phone calls on a pair of AA's?
Thanks for the info.
>
> Nobody beats Apple in battery life, their Laptops are the same way...
> lasting around 20% more than anyone else.
>
The above just reeks of "fanboi" broohah, does not address the post, and was
unnecessary.
>
> Even simple things like "proximity sensors" that sense the "mass of
> your head" when you are talking, and power down unneeded features is
> something most of the other phone makers don't know how to do...
>
That is an impressive feature and has not gone unnoticed by me.
>
> Get an iPhone, it's the best on the market by far.
>
It's possible that it is. Let's see what happens in the next few weeks.

David Moyer wrote:
> In article <487bd2b9$0$7337$607ed4bc@cv.net>,
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> No matter how you slice it, Apple's failure to make the battery
>> user-replaceable is a huge error imho. I suspect that, should
>> decide to ge an iPhone, I'll be spending a lot of my time being
>> fearful of using it for the reasons mentioned above.
>
> no, you are incorrect. that's more about an UNEDUCATED public since
> people still don't realize that apple is using lithium ion batteries
> so the need to replace them on the fly isn't necessary like it was
> 5-10 years ago. Apple is just ahead of the public, and of course your
> "uneducated" comment continues to show this ignorance.
>
> if you want more battery power, just take it! there are PLENTY of
> battery extenders for the iPhone, just get one and be done with it.
>
> http://www.jr.com/kensington/pe/KEG_33396/
>
> http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/12/...y.pack.debuts/
>
> http://fastmac.com/iv.php
>
Your recommendations are good ones. However, your statement about the
batteries being lithium ion is unrelated to the question at hand and has
nothing to do with whether users want a user-replaceable battery or not.