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Old July 22nd, 2008
4phun
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MobileMe
A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC

Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.

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Old July 22nd, 2008
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
wrote:

>MobileMe
>A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC
>
>Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.



Never sawe the value in paying for another email service, when it has
peported reliability issues.

GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.

Originally Apple also provided AntiVitus, then dropped that a few
years back.
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Old July 22nd, 2008
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On Jul 22, 8:47*am, Ron <roncliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >MobileMe
> >A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC

>
> >Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.

>
> Never sawe the value in paying for another email service, when it has
> peported reliability issues.
>
> GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
> web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>
> Originally Apple also provided AntiVitus, then dropped that a few
> years back.


I agree. Gmail is very powerful, especially if you checkout its new
advanced features.
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Old July 22nd, 2008
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Ron wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:33:06 -0700 (PDT), 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> MobileMe
>> A new service for your iPhone, iPod touch, Mac, and PC
>>
>> Look for MobileMe in your Microsoft Windows Control Panel on your PC.

>
>
> Never sawe the value in paying for another email service, when it has
> peported reliability issues.
>
> GMAIL is free, and email can now be pulled via a POP client, or their
> web client is excellent. Does a marvelous job of SPAM filtering too.
>
> Originally Apple also provided AntiVitus, then dropped that a few
> years back.
>

Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for coordinating
changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar, and address book.
It's actually a great idea, but currently a little expensive at $100/year.


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Old July 22nd, 2008
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
news:4885ed19$0$20946$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
> expensive at $100/year.
>
>


We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking and
fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
browser push crapware.....

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On Jul 22, 10:22*am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:

> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for coordinating
> changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar, and address book.
> It's actually a great idea, but currently a little expensive at $100/year..


Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
checking is fine for me.
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zwsdotcom@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 22, 10:22 am, "Carl" <croth...@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote:
>
>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>> expensive at $100/year.

>
> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
> If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
> look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
> checking is fine for me.
>

Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA, laptop and
desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their changes updated on all of
them but don't want to sync each manually because that becomes a monumental
task to attend to everyday. Now perhaps they want to continue using a
standardized program such as MS Outlook and don't want to switch over to
Google calendar. People like that would appreciate a push service like
Mobileme.

Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have to
access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the latter, that
would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to check my appointments, I
don't want to first have to access the internet.

Just some thoughts.


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Old July 22nd, 2008
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AE3707E280BEnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
> news:4885ed19$0$20946$607ed4bc@cv.net:
>
>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>> expensive at $100/year.
>>
>>

>
> We "others" don't need a push client. Our computers are multitasking and
> fully capable of checking all those services on their own without the
> browser push crapware.....


as is the iphone


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Old July 22nd, 2008
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
news:48860234$0$20939$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a little
>>> expensive at $100/year.

>>
>> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
>> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push services.
>> If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open the app to
>> look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email; periodic
>> checking is fine for me.

>
> Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA, laptop
> and desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their changes updated on
> all of them but don't want to sync each manually because that becomes a
> monumental task to attend to everyday. Now perhaps they want to continue
> using a standardized program such as MS Outlook and don't want to switch
> over to Google calendar. People like that would appreciate a push service
> like Mobileme.


I think zws is reffering to the "push" aspect rather than the sync aspect.
For MOST people, scheduled "pulling" is good enough. With respect to
synching calendar, contacts, and tasks, my mobile devices, desktop and
laptop PCs sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar info with a Funambol SyncML
server every few hours. Most of my e-mail accounts sync hourly (or two) on
my mobile (on a 2G network like T-Mobile's or with the original iPhone, data
and voice can not occur simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing
increases the odds that a voice call can't get through because the phone is
busy with data and the call rolls right to voice mail.

I use one push e-mail account, but that's mostly used for my Visual
Voicemail. I'd rather have a voicemail from a missed call immediately
rather than 5, 15, or 60 minutes later. ;-)

> Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have to
> access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the latter, that
> would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to check my appointments,
> I don't want to first have to access the internet.


There are plenty of Outlook sync plug-ins for Google Clendar and Contacts
that work with desktops and mobiles. Goosync and Oggsync come to mind- they
periodically connect and sync the device/PC to the Google cloud info.
Another good example of a "poor man's Exchange server" like the Funambol
software I use. Both also have the advantage of being more platform
agnostic than Exchange. Exchange is great, but what if you want to sync
that info with your Nokia Symbian device, or your plain old Motorola Razr?
That's where Exchange alternatives like Google Calendar/Contacts, Plaxo, or
Funambol start to shine.


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Old July 22nd, 2008
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Todd Allcock wrote:
> "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in message
> news:48860234$0$20939$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>>>> Mobileme is not an email service. It's a push- service for
>>>> coordinating changes on all Apple devices at once, email, calendar,
>>>> and address book. It's actually a great idea, but currently a
>>>> little expensive at $100/year.
>>>
>>> Especially since free alternatives exist, e.g. google calendar sync.
>>> I've never really understood the marketing froth about push
>>> services. If I want to go look at my contacts list, I have to open
>>> the app to look at it anyway. Same with calendar. Same with email;
>>> periodic checking is fine for me.

>>
>> Well, there are people who use multiple devices. Let's say a PDA,
>> laptop and desktop, perhaps a smartphone. And they want their
>> changes updated on all of them but don't want to sync each manually
>> because that becomes a monumental task to attend to everyday. Now
>> perhaps they want to continue using a standardized program such as
>> MS Outlook and don't want to switch over to Google calendar. People
>> like that would appreciate a push service like Mobileme.

>
> I think zws is reffering to the "push" aspect rather than the sync
> aspect. For MOST people, scheduled "pulling" is good enough. With
> respect to synching calendar, contacts, and tasks, my mobile devices,
> desktop and laptop PCs sync Outlook Contacts and Calendar info with a
> Funambol SyncML server every few hours. Most of my e-mail accounts
> sync hourly (or two) on my mobile (on a 2G network like T-Mobile's or
> with the original iPhone, data and voice can not occur
> simultaneously- too much pulling and pushing increases the odds that
> a voice call can't get through because the phone is busy with data
> and the call rolls right to voice mail.
> I use one push e-mail account, but that's mostly used for my Visual
> Voicemail. I'd rather have a voicemail from a missed call immediately
> rather than 5, 15, or 60 minutes later. ;-)
>
>> Does google calendar actually appear on your devices or do you have
>> to access the internet everytime you want to check it? If the
>> latter, that would be a huge drawback to me anyway. If I want to
>> check my appointments, I don't want to first have to access the
>> internet.

>
> There are plenty of Outlook sync plug-ins for Google Clendar and
> Contacts that work with desktops and mobiles. Goosync and Oggsync
> come to mind- they periodically connect and sync the device/PC to the
> Google cloud info. Another good example of a "poor man's Exchange
> server" like the Funambol software I use. Both also have the
> advantage of being more platform agnostic than Exchange. Exchange is
> great, but what if you want to sync that info with your Nokia Symbian
> device, or your plain old Motorola Razr? That's where Exchange
> alternatives like Google Calendar/Contacts, Plaxo, or Funambol start
> to shine.

As usual, thanks for all the useful, and well-informed, information.


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