LOL!! I love watching some behind the curve Windoze idiot tapping his
$700 phone with a stylus. It reminds me of when you clowns all
complained that the first iMac's didn't have floppy drives.
I am sorry you are stuck with your Nokia toy, but it's of your own
doing.
> LOL!! I love watching some behind the curve Windoze idiot tapping his
> $700 phone with a stylus.
It is funny. Almost as funny as watching iPhones user trying to figure out
how to dial a call outdoors on a cold winter's day without taking their
gloves off... ;-)
Life's about tradeoffs. I'm not sure why iPhone users equate finger usage
with "high tech." It's not like finger input doesn't work on other
touchscreens- styli are used for precision and to allow more discrete
tappable areas in a smaller space. Being a system designed for stylus
input is what allows my phone's soft keyboard to use only a quarter of my
screen when in use, while yours takes up two-thirds.
I can use a finger if I need to, but a stylus allows for greater accuracy.
When you hand write letters or notes, do you use fingerpaint and snicker at
those of us "behind the curve" still using ink pens?
Voice Command makes non-stylus use easier as well. Pushing one button on
the phone's side and saying "Play Elvis Costello" is easier than tapping
Start/Windows Media/Menu/Library/Music/Artist then selecting Elvis from the
list, regardless of whether I'd use a finger or a stylus...
> It reminds me of when you clowns all
> complained that the first iMac's didn't have floppy drives.
I don't follow the Mac world close enough to remember if Apple left
floppies off prematurely, so I won't comment on that except generically and
non-accusingly: there's a difference between being ahead of the curve and
being bleeding edge. I'm quite sure in 10-20 years we'll all use voice
recognition as a primary input method instead of typing. However, I
wouldn't buy a PC without a keyboard TODAY so someday I can smugly say I
was first on the no-keyboard bandwagon. And I'd criticize any manufacturer
that TODAY included a copy of Dragon instead of a keyboard, even knowing
that's probably how a computer will look in a decade or two.
In article <g85dhm$9qq$1@aioe.org>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> I'm quite sure in 10-20 years we'll all use voice
> recognition as a primary input method instead of typing. However, I
> wouldn't buy a PC without a keyboard TODAY so someday I can smugly say I
> was first on the no-keyboard bandwagon. And I'd criticize any manufacturer
> that TODAY included a copy of Dragon instead of a keyboard, even knowing
> that's probably how a computer will look in a decade or two.
i've been hearing that voice recognition will replace the keyboard for
a long, long time. it hasn't happened yet and i don't think it's going
to happen any time soon. who really wants an office full of people
yapping to their computers? typing is fast, efficient, and it works.
whenever i call a company and get one of those automated attendants
that do voice recognition, i cringe. a little background noise and the
accuracy rate drops dramatically, plus even when it works, it's a lot
slower than just punching in numbers. and if i call from a noisy
location (e.g., checking flight status at an airport), it's a total
crap shoot.
maybe voice will become common for some things, but an overall
replacement for typing? doubtful.
> > I'm quite sure in 10-20 years we'll all use voice
> > recognition as a primary input method instead of typing. However, I
> > wouldn't buy a PC without a keyboard TODAY so someday I can smugly say I
> > was first on the no-keyboard bandwagon. And I'd criticize any
manufacturer
> > that TODAY included a copy of Dragon instead of a keyboard, even knowing
> > that's probably how a computer will look in a decade or two.
>
> i've been hearing that voice recognition will replace the keyboard for
> a long, long time. it hasn't happened yet and i don't think it's going
> to happen any time soon. who really wants an office full of people
> yapping to their computers? typing is fast, efficient, and it works.
A few thoughts- first, speaker-independent voice recognition is not really
at the point where it can replace typing yet- it needs to be darn near 100%
accurate to be a worthy replacement for typing. Secondly, I was really
just looking for a commonplace computer item that may one day disappear in
the future as an analogy to the floppy drive- whether it ends up being the
keyboard really is besides the point. You were knocking those that
insulted the first iMacs without floppies by, I assume, pointing out in
retrospect that the design decision was proven correct by history- I simply
was pointing out that it stil may have been too early (but admitted I
didn't know for sure- I dont' recall when they were released.)
> whenever i call a company and get one of those automated attendants
> that do voice recognition, i cringe. a little background noise and the
> accuracy rate drops dramatically, plus even when it works, it's a lot
> slower than just punching in numbers. and if i call from a noisy
> location (e.g., checking flight status at an airport), it's a total
> crap shoot.
True, but you're discussing today's state of the art. I expect circa-2028
voice recognitio will be vastly improved. As mediocre as it works today,
where was it 20 years ago, other than in test labs and science fiction?
> maybe voice will become common for some things, but an overall
> replacement for typing? doubtful.
Don't underestimate the laziness of human beings! ;-)
In article <g87sip$53a$1@aioe.org>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> > > I'm quite sure in 10-20 years we'll all use voice
> > > recognition as a primary input method instead of typing. However, I
> > > wouldn't buy a PC without a keyboard TODAY so someday I can smugly say I
> > > was first on the no-keyboard bandwagon. And I'd criticize any
> manufacturer
> > > that TODAY included a copy of Dragon instead of a keyboard, even knowing
> > > that's probably how a computer will look in a decade or two.
> >
> > i've been hearing that voice recognition will replace the keyboard for
> > a long, long time. it hasn't happened yet and i don't think it's going
> > to happen any time soon. who really wants an office full of people
> > yapping to their computers? typing is fast, efficient, and it works.
>
> A few thoughts- first, speaker-independent voice recognition is not really
> at the point where it can replace typing yet- it needs to be darn near 100%
> accurate to be a worthy replacement for typing.
it needs to be noticably faster and more accurate to warrant changing.
and that doesn't address the issue of the chatter and privacy issues
with everyone talking to their computers.
for someone who types slowly (or not at all) it might one day be an
alternative, but i am skeptical that it will replace a keyboard for a
skilled typist.
> Secondly, I was really
> just looking for a commonplace computer item that may one day disappear in
> the future as an analogy to the floppy drive- whether it ends up being the
> keyboard really is besides the point. You were knocking those that
> insulted the first iMacs without floppies by, I assume, pointing out in
> retrospect that the design decision was proven correct by history- I simply
> was pointing out that it stil may have been too early (but admitted I
> didn't know for sure- I dont' recall when they were released.)
i did not mention macs at all. i was only commenting on whether voice
recognition will become mainstream.
At 17 Aug 2008 05:14:54 -0700 nospam wrote:
> > You were knocking those that
> > insulted the first iMacs without floppies by, I assume, pointing out in
> > retrospect that the design decision was proven correct by history- I
simply
> > was pointing out that it stil may have been too early (but admitted I
> > didn't know for sure- I dont' recall when they were released.)
>
> i did not mention macs at all. i was only commenting on whether voice
> recognition will become mainstream.
Sorry, I momentarily confused "anon" as one of your myriad of sockpupp-,
er, "nom de plumes."