Verizon's Anti-iPhone Propaganda

Leaked Document Shows Verizon's Anti-iPhone Propaganda

gizmodo.com — Verizon's tactics to combat the Jesusphone 3G now
include briefing its employees about the iPhone's failings, so they
can answer customer questions about why it doesn't carry the device.

http://digg.com/apple/Leaked_Documen...one_Propaganda


BTW
Let's do our own math. Looking at the picture/ad/poster that Verizon
has issued; AT&T's Data is $30
Verizon's Data is $40.

Assuming each would be for a 2 year contract, that would cost you $720
for Cingular and $960 for Verizon. Remember, this is only for data at
3G/EVDO levels. Now, add voice, at Unlimited Minutes.

AT&T's voice is $100, adding up to $2400 + $720 in data = $3120, and
Verizon's voice is $139, adding up to $3336+$960 in data = $4296.

Let's add the iPhone to AT&T's plan, which would be $3319, and a
similar $199 phone to Verizon; $4495. It's a difference of $1375.
Which is fairly large.

At 02 Sep 2008 01:25:30 -0700 4phun wrote:
> Leaked Document Shows Verizon's Anti-iPhone Propaganda
>
> gizmodo.com — Verizon's tactics to combat the Jesusphone 3G now
> include briefing its employees about the iPhone's failings, so they
> can answer customer questions about why it doesn't carry the device.
>
>
http://digg.com/apple/Leaked_Documen...one_Propaganda


Yep, pretty standard sales info. A zillion years ago when I owned a
Cingular dealership, we'd get similar propaganda whenever the competition
launched a new product or sefvice we didn't offer.


> BTW
> Let's do our own math. Looking at the picture/ad/poster that Verizon
> has issued; AT&T's Data is $30
> Verizon's Data is $40.
>
> Assuming each would be for a 2 year contract, that would cost you $720
> for Cingular and $960 for Verizon. Remember, this is only for data at
> 3G/EVDO levels.

Again, read the propaganda- VZW is suggesting their $40 data is preferable
because it includes unlimited text/MMS messaging and turn-by-turn spoken
navigation software for just $10 more- unlimited texting on AT&T is $20
extra.

> Now, add voice, at Unlimited Minutes.
>
> AT&T's voice is $100, adding up to $2400 + $720 in data = $3120, and
> Verizon's voice is $139, adding up to $3336+$960 in data = $4296.


Verizon's voice is $99, just like AT&T- $139 includes unlimited data and
messaging (essentially just the $99 voice plan plus the $40 data/txt/nav
plan discussed above.


> Let's add the iPhone to AT&T's plan, which would be $3319, and a
> similar $199 phone to Verizon; $4495. It's a difference of $1375.
> Which is fairly large.

Except you're off by $40/month or $960.

On Sep 2, 12:30*pm, "Todd Allcock" <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com>
wrote:
> At 02 Sep 2008 01:25:30 -0700 4phun wrote:> Leaked Document Shows Verizon's Anti-iPhone Propaganda
>
> > gizmodo.com — Verizon's tactics to combat the Jesusphone 3G now
> > include briefing its employees about the iPhone's failings, so they
> > can answer customer questions about why it doesn't carry the device.
>
> http://digg.com/apple/Leaked_Documen...nti_iPhone_Pro...
>
> Yep, pretty standard sales info. *A zillion years ago when I owned a
> Cingular dealership, we'd get similar propaganda whenever the competition
> launched a new product or sefvice we didn't offer.
>
> > BTW
> > Let's do our own math. Looking at the picture/ad/poster that Verizon
> > has issued; AT&T's Data is $30
> > Verizon's Data is $40.
>
> > Assuming each would be for a 2 year contract, that would cost you $720
> > for Cingular and $960 for Verizon. Remember, this is only for data at
> > 3G/EVDO levels.
>
> Again, read the propaganda- VZW is suggesting their $40 data is preferable
> because it includes unlimited text/MMS messaging and turn-by-turn spoken
> navigation software for just $10 more- unlimited texting on AT&T is $20
> extra.
>
> > Now, add voice, at Unlimited Minutes.
>
> > AT&T's voice is $100, adding up to $2400 + $720 in data = $3120, and
> > Verizon's voice is $139, adding up to $3336+$960 in data = $4296.
>
> Verizon's voice is $99, just like AT&T- $139 includes unlimited data and
> messaging (essentially just the $99 voice plan plus the $40 data/txt/nav
> plan discussed above.
>
> > Let's add the iPhone to AT&T's plan, which would be $3319, and a
> > similar $199 phone to Verizon; $4495. It's a difference of $1375.
> > Which is fairly large.
>
> Except you're off by $40/month or $960.

Apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

The Unlimited text is NOT THE SAME.

Verizon is unlimited text only to those IN or to say those on the
Verizon Network.

You pay Verizon through your donkey if you text to an iPhone on AT&T
for instance.

That is an expensive privilege if all your college friends have an
iPhone and you alone are on Verizon. Many colleges are giving iPhones
to their students this year and everyone gets a big discount from AT&T
for college use.

Then there is that unlimited Verizon Data which is capped at 5GB. Go
over and its is $0.25 PER MB data.

That means if you use 6 GB (5GB + 1GB over) you could owe the big Vz a
$250 data overcharge for that month. Whoa Monkey!

With those kinds of dollar signs in their eyes it is no wonder that VZ
can give away those iPhone clones and wannabes they stock.

Its all about that contract they nail you to, that is were the Verizon
money is.

At 02 Sep 2008 11:53:23 -0700 4phun wrote:

> > > AT&T's voice is $100, adding up to $2400 + $720 in data = $3120, and
> > > Verizon's voice is $139, adding up to $3336+$960 in data = $4296.
> >
> > Verizon's voice is $99, just like AT&T- $139 includes unlimited data and
> > messaging (essentially just the $99 voice plan plus the $40 data/txt/nav
> > plan discussed above.
> >
> > > Let's add the iPhone to AT&T's plan, which would be $3319, and a
> > > similar $199 phone to Verizon; $4495. It's a difference of $1375.
> > > Which is fairly large.
> >
> > Except you're off by $40/month or $960.
>
> Apples to apples and oranges to oranges.
>
> The Unlimited text is NOT THE SAME.
>
> Verizon is unlimited text only to those IN or to say those on the
> Verizon Network.


No, the $40 "premium" data add-on includes text and picture messaging to
any phone on any (US) network.


From:
<http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/s...First&action=v
iewPlanList>

"Unlimited Text, Picture, Video & Instant Messaging to anyone on any
network in the U.S."

> You pay Verizon through your donkey if you text to an iPhone on AT&T
> for instance.


No, you don't- it's included in the package.

> That is an expensive privilege if all your college friends have an
> iPhone and you alone are on Verizon.

Yeah, it would be if those message weren't included. Just think how many
Verizon users have to text their iPhone-packing friends "Dude, didn't you
get the picture message I just sent you? ...Oh, that's right- you can't
receive picture messages!" ;-)

> Many colleges are giving iPhones
> to their students this year and everyone gets a big discount from AT&T
> for college use.


I suspect a large number of college students are on their parents' family
plans as additional users, so they have little direct control over what
carrier they get to use.

> Then there is that unlimited Verizon Data which is capped at 5GB. Go
> over and its is $0.25 PER MB data.


That doesn't apply to on-phone data use- only to tethering, which isn't
applicable to this comparison, again, because one of them are unable to!

From the above URL:
"Get Unlimited Messaging, VZ Navigator, Mobile Email, and V CAST VPak plus
unlimited megabytes for Mobile Web 2.0 and Get It Now on select Verizon
Wireless phones."


> That means if you use 6 GB (5GB + 1GB over) you could owe the big Vz a
> $250 data overcharge for that month. Whoa Monkey!

See above... "unlimited megabytes."


> With those kinds of dollar signs in their eyes it is no wonder that VZ
> can give away those iPhone clones and wannabes they stock.


While I agree Verizon is the most expensive nationwide carrier, AT&T does a
phenomenal job of "trying harder" in second place.

> Its all about that contract they nail you to, that is were the Verizon
> money is.


And AT&T is different exactly how? Am I missing the no-contract option for
iPhone 3G?