Steven's Myth of Verizon AMPS coverage in the San Francisco BayArea

clifto wrote:

> One of the nice things about working the Hispanofest in Melrose Park IL
> was that on break time there was a nice privately owned coffee shop
> just a couple of blocks off the beaten path. They pulled a mean espresso
> and made delicious coffee. And Starbucks tastes burnt to discriminating
> people who frequent places that make good coffee.

The problem is that non-coffee people often equate burnt with strong.
Apparently they have never had a cup of strong, medium roast coffee,
which is understandable since you can't get such a thing at Starbucks,
unless a store happens to do a medium roast as the "coffee of the day,"
and that's pretty rare, in my experience.

There are smaller, specialty coffee houses that do medium roast brewed
coffee, but you have to search them out. Or you can buy medium roast
coffee and do it yourself. The advantage is you can drink such coffee
black without drowning it with milk and sugar. It's like drinking good
whiskey straight, rather than mixing it with something sweet like soda
or orange juice to hide the taste. Plain coffee is much less profitable
than $3-4 espresso drinks, so understandably Starbucks doesn't want to
push plain coffee.

You often stumble across good coffee in places that you don't expect. If
it's a cafe or store owned by Pakistani's or Indian's, often the coffee
is good, Chinese, usually not so good, though judging from the number of
coffee houses in Taiwan, it should be better than it is.

See "http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EK18Aa01.html"

What is American Culture

"2. Burnt coffee at exorbitant prices. The most popular cafe chain,
whose name decent people do not pronounce, burns its coffee beans to
produce what Americans mistakenly believe is an authentic European
taste. Proper coffee, by which of course I mean Italian coffee, is
bittersweet, not burned. Americans evidently hate the wretched stuff
because they drown its flavor in a flood of milk, in the so-called
"latte", something I never have observed an Italian request during many
years of travel in that country. By contrast, Italians drink cappuccino,
mixing a small amount of milk into the coffee and leaving a cap of foam.
If Americans do not like it, why do they buy it at exorbitant prices?
They do so precisely because the high price makes it a luxury, but an
affordable one for secretaries and shopgirls."



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On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:19:05 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <45d0cbbb$0$27157$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>clifto wrote:
>
>> One of the nice things about working the Hispanofest in Melrose Park IL
>> was that on break time there was a nice privately owned coffee shop
>> just a couple of blocks off the beaten path. They pulled a mean espresso
>> and made delicious coffee. And Starbucks tastes burnt to discriminating
>> people who frequent places that make good coffee.
>
>The problem is that non-coffee people often equate burnt with strong.

The real problem is that Starbucks bashers have adopted "burnt" with no
real appreciation for darker roasts.

>Apparently they have never had a cup of strong, medium roast coffee,

Like so many others, you're confusing strength with deepness of roast.
They are two different things entirely.

>which is understandable since you can't get such a thing at Starbucks,
>unless a store happens to do a medium roast as the "coffee of the day,"
>and that's pretty rare, in my experience.

Actually quite common.

>There are smaller, specialty coffee houses that do medium roast brewed
>coffee, but you have to search them out.

The better ones also have light and dark roasts.

Some people prefer medium roast. Other people prefer dark roast. Still
others prefer light roast. There is no one best roast.

>Or you can buy medium roast
>coffee and do it yourself. The advantage is you can drink such coffee
>black without drowning it with milk and sugar. It's like drinking good
>whiskey straight, rather than mixing it with something sweet like soda
>or orange juice to hide the taste.

Likewise good dark roasts.

>Plain coffee is much less profitable
>than $3-4 espresso drinks, so understandably Starbucks doesn't want to
>push plain coffee.

Can't resist bashing, can you?

>You often stumble across good coffee in places that you don't expect. If
>it's a cafe or store owned by Pakistani's or Indian's, often the coffee
>is good, Chinese, usually not so good, though judging from the number of
>coffee houses in Taiwan, it should be better than it is.

Mostly dreadful.

>See "http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EK18Aa01.html"
>
>What is American Culture
>
>"2. Burnt coffee at exorbitant prices. The most popular cafe chain,
>whose name decent people do not pronounce, burns its coffee beans to
>produce what Americans mistakenly believe is an authentic European
>taste. Proper coffee, by which of course I mean Italian coffee, is
>bittersweet, not burned. Americans evidently hate the wretched stuff
>because they drown its flavor in a flood of milk, in the so-called
>"latte", something I never have observed an Italian request during many
>years of travel in that country. By contrast, Italians drink cappuccino,
>mixing a small amount of milk into the coffee and leaving a cap of foam.
>If Americans do not like it, why do they buy it at exorbitant prices?
>They do so precisely because the high price makes it a luxury, but an
>affordable one for secretaries and shopgirls."

How many more times are you going to post this biased drivel?

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