Thurman wrote:
> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:hgbn23h6svmjb0na7sacpu1k48ep02a880@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
>> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
>> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>> mostly unlocking services.
>>>
>>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>> way.
>
> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
phone.
My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
from Cingular to T-Mobile, but I was able to walk her through it using
her IMEI.
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <462c1e12$0$27218$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Thurman wrote:
>> "John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:hgbn23h6svmjb0na7sacpu1k48ep02a880@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:51:06 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
>>> <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in
>>> <l21n23dlnkn6b9vesrljo7fhpmrdo52ldv@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>>>> mostly unlocking services.
>>>>
>>>> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>>> Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that
>>> way.
>>
>> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
>
>Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
>you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
>prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
>phone.
All it actually takes normally is an account in good standing.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
> you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
> prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad
> band phone.
Canada and Mexico use 850 and/or 1900, so any Cingular phone can
theoretically be used outside the US.
> My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
> from Cingular to T-Mobile...
I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
carriers... ;-)
> > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
> > carriers... ;-)
>
> Duh!
>
> They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.
Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
international rates.
Anyway, compared to (the old) AT&T's no unlocking for any reason ever
policy, Cingular is rather generous.
> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
> international rates.
They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <462d0b20$0$27162$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
>> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
>> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
>> international rates.
>
>They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
"They" (it) isn't worried about any SIM anywhere.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
them?" Arguably I'm far more likely to take a higher-end Cingular phone
to T-Mo than an 850/1900-only phone that T-Mo would give me for free at
signup anyway.
Although I'm notplanning to leave T-Mo anytime soon, you can be darn sure
I had them give me the unlock code for my $250 MDA PPC phone and my
Symbian Nokia 3650 as soon as I\was ellugible. I've never bothered
requesting the codes for my crummy Nokia 6030s however.
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700 SMS wrote:
>
>> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
>
> Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
> them?"
I agree, but in their view the person asking for unlocking of a
quad-band at least has a legitimate reason for the request that doesn't
involve leaving Cingular for another carrier. A person asking for
unlocking of a dual band phone probably isn't planning to use a prepaid
SIM in Canada, Mexico, or any other part of North America that uses
850/1900, they're doing it to take the phone with them to another
carrier. Since even parts of North America use 900/1800 MHz, a quad band
phone is probably a good idea these days.
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