Verizon retakes US wireless subscriber lead from AT&T
Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 07 Jun 2007 06:36:02 -0700 SMS wrote:
>
>> Cingular is only slightly behind right now, and when the iPhone hits
>> they will probably be slightly ahead for a while.
>
> You're giving the iPhone waaaay too much credit. I suspect the actual
> number of people who jump ship will be small. Frankly, Verizon's phone
> selection has been lackluster for quite sometime- people buy Verizon for
> "The Network"- not for snazzy phones.
You're probably right. Maybe I got caught up in all the hype for the
iPhone. It's actually a very nice web pad with its wi-fi access, and
while high-priced for a phone, it's not so bad for a web access device
plus music player. Too bad there is no external memory slot.
Verizon retakes US wireless subscriber lead from AT&T
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:36:02 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <466809b2$0$27181$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
>> At 06 Jun 2007 16:58:46 -0700 SMS wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure why Navas is so upset about Verizon passing AT&T in
>>> subscribers, it really doesn't mean anything other than bragging
>>> rights in advertising.
The one that's so intent on this issue, as the record clearly shows, is
actually you, presumably because of your axe to grind against GSM in
general and AT&T/Cingular in particular.
>> And yet Verizon hasn't bragged about it in their ads to date. Apparently
>> they don't think they've surpassed AT&T yet either...
Well, duh. :)
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>More likely that they don't think it's something worth using in their
>advertising. Look at the comparative number of net additions between
>Cingular and Verizon. Clearly the current Verizon marketing campaigns
>are doing fine. Advertising like that can backfire. If you claim you're
>the best just because you have the most subscribers and the most people
>you can call free on mobile to mobile, what happens when you have a
>couple of comparatively mediocre quarters of net additions, as Cingular
>has been experiencing, and lose the lead slightly? Cingular is only
>slightly behind right now, and when the iPhone hits they will probably
>be slightly ahead for a while.
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>Doing well in national and regional surveys is the best marketing tool,
>and that's something money can't buy. Of course you can run always run
>out and do your own survey, misrepresent the results and base a whole
>national ad campaign on those results, to the point that even the
>company that you paid to do the survey has to issue a statement that the
>advertising claims are are invalid.
You mean like Verizon ads based solely on undisclosed and unverifiable
internal testing? LOL
>Did Cingular really ever believe
>that no one would see through the "fewest dropped calls" claim? It
>backfired, as there was not evidence to support their claims.
The campaign is still running, so that wouldn't seem to be true either.
Give it a rest.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Verizon retakes US wireless subscriber lead from AT&T
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:58:46 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <46674a27$0$27202$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> AT&T = Customers
>>
>> When subscribers are counted for each Verizon comes out on top.
>
>Verizon has more subscribers than "Wireless from AT&T" while AT&T has
>more users of its network by virtue of them leasing capacity to more
>MVNOs than Verizon.
The simple fact, no matter how you try to deny it, is that AT&T/Cingular
is the market leader.
>A good metric is how many subscribers can call each other using mobile
>to mobile minutes. The MVNO customers of AT&T don't get to call actual
>AT&T subscribers.
Your personal metric makes no sense, and is at odds with the industry.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Verizon retakes US wireless subscriber lead from AT&T
On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:01:41 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <46674ad5$0$27202$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Mij Adyaw wrote:
>> That means that Stinkular is now "number two" behind verizon. It just goes
>> to proove that CDMA is better.
>
>The number of subscribers that have any idea of the technology behind
>their network is very small. However a large part of the reason that
>Verizon consistently is ranked better than Cingular in every part of the
>country is partially due to the technology because CDMA makes it easier
>to provide better service.
That's simply nonsense. GSM/UMTS and CDMA both have pros and cons.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
Verizon retakes US wireless subscriber lead from AT&T
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