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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:09 PM
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Todd Allcock wrote:

> I find that's true for most people. Don't take this the wrong way,
> because I certainly respect your opinions, but you rarely recommend
> anything but Verizon for postpaid, PagePlus for prepaid, and never
> suggest a phone model without AMPS.


Right, but I don't tell people to buy the specific phone model that I
have. In fact I could tell them some negatives about my phone (V325),
such as the external antenna jack being inside the battery compartment,
and the lack of ability to use a Motorola Professional Hands Free Car
Kit with the model I have.

> You've obviously selected those products and services as "best" for you
> and your family, so it's natural for you to think them as best for
> others.


Well personally I go by coverage in the areas where I spend the most
time. However I understand that some people care more about other
things, such as the ability to use the same phone model in much of
Europe and much of Asia, something that I can't do except in Korea and a
few other Asian and European countries with CDMA networks, and even in
those European and Asian countries with both GSM and CDMA the GSM
networks are often more developed because they've been around longer,
the reverse of North America. On the other hand, even if I had Cingular,
I'd likely not be doing international roaming, I'd get a prepaid SIM
card. I can do that anyway, I just need a separate phone, rather than a
quad-band GSM phone.

I have often recommended T-Mobile prepaid as the lowest cost prepaid
option, for those people that can live with T-Mobile coverage. I even
got my mother on T-Mobile prepaid, after AT&T/Cingular jacked up her
rates when they converted her from TDMA/AMPS over to GSM. This started a
movement in South Florida, where all her friends did the same thing.
They could almost do a Seinfeld episode about how the seniors change
long distance and wireless companies so much, and usually these are
people that don't have to watch every dollar. In this case, nearly
everyone she knew was on AT&T, which was the predominant carrier in
South Florida. They all had very low cost rate plans, sub-$30. When
Cingular took over, and began "encouraging" people to change to GSM,
those sweetheart plans went away, and suddenly they were paying $50 for
what used to cost sub-$30. Now they're all paying 10¢ a minute on
T-Mobile, and using OneSuite (which I also was responsible for) for long
distance now that they now longer have unlimited off-peak on their cell
phones. Verizon isn't that great in South Florida, where they are at
1900 MHz, and PagePlus is too complicated to explain to people over a
certain age (uh-oh).




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posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
Wireless Service.]
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:11 PM
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:464cf605$0$27184$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Todd Allcock wrote:

FYI - I have the Virgin Mobile pre-paid - as it appears to be the cheapest
with the only req of $20 every 90 days ....
>
> I have often recommended T-Mobile prepaid as the lowest cost prepaid
> option, for those people that can live with T-Mobile coverage. I even
> got my mother on T-Mobile prepaid, after AT&T/Cingular jacked up her
> rates when they converted her from TDMA/AMPS over to GSM. This started a
> movement in South Florida, where all her friends did the same thing.
> They could almost do a Seinfeld episode about how the seniors change
> long distance and wireless companies so much, and usually these are
> people that don't have to watch every dollar. In this case, nearly
> everyone she knew was on AT&T, which was the predominant carrier in
> South Florida. They all had very low cost rate plans, sub-$30. When
> Cingular took over, and began "encouraging" people to change to GSM,
> those sweetheart plans went away, and suddenly they were paying $50 for
> what used to cost sub-$30. Now they're all paying 10¢ a minute on
> T-Mobile, and using OneSuite (which I also was responsible for) for long
> distance now that they now longer have unlimited off-peak on their cell
> phones. Verizon isn't that great in South Florida, where they are at
> 1900 MHz, and PagePlus is too complicated to explain to people over a
> certain age (uh-oh).
>
>
>
>
> [Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
> posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
> and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
> Wireless Service.]



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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:11 PM
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At 29 May 2007 21:14:23 -0500 P.Schuman wrote:

> FYI - I have the Virgin Mobile pre-paid - as it appears to be the

cheapest
> with the only req of $20 every 90 days ....


PagePlus (a Verizon reseller) is $10 every 90 days, and T-Mobile is $100
for the first year, but only $10/year after the first.

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"P.Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message news:%457i.8675$4Y.1795@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net ...
>
> FYI - I have the Virgin Mobile pre-paid - as it appears to be the cheapest
> with the only req of $20 every 90 days ....


The only drawback being that Virgin won't let you use an existing Sprint phone.
When I switched from T-Mobile postpaid to T-Mobile prepaid, I had no
trouble getting them to activate my RAZR at no charge.
--
John Richards



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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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P.Schuman wrote:
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:464cf605$0$27184$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> Todd Allcock wrote:

> FYI - I have the Virgin Mobile pre-paid - as it appears to be the cheapest
> with the only req of $20 every 90 days ....


Actually it's very expensive compared to T-Mobile and PagePlus.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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> The only drawback being that Virgin won't let you use an existing Sprint
> phone.
> When I switched from T-Mobile postpaid to T-Mobile prepaid, I had no
> trouble getting them to activate my RAZR at no charge.
> --
> John Richards

Thats because its a gsm phone, I did the same, when I bought a new phone to
replace my Cingular Nokia 6230, I just bought a Go Phone Sim and had my kids
use the phone when they were out playing with their friends.

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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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On Thu, 17 May 2007 17:40:40 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <464cf605$0$27184$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Todd Allcock wrote:
>
>> I find that's true for most people. Don't take this the wrong way,
>> because I certainly respect your opinions, but you rarely recommend
>> anything but Verizon for postpaid, PagePlus for prepaid, and never
>> suggest a phone model without AMPS.

>
>Right, but I don't tell people to buy the specific phone model that I
>have. In fact I could tell them some negatives about my phone (V325),


Now I understand why you have service problems. :)

>[SNIP long, weak self-defense]


--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
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