Steven Levy now speaks on the iPhone

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > well, the simm card is certainly removable, but you are right as of
> > today, there is no way to use it with a prepaid card.
>
> One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> articles say the same thing.

The ones at MacWorld 2007 were, and there is certainly an open slot at
the top where the SIMM card sits... how it comes out (see the black dot)
is unknown, but it's user removable.

>
> well, the simm card is certainly removable, but you are right as of
> today, there is no way to use it with a prepaid card.
>
> see the top of the phone:
>
> http://www.apple.com/iphone/gallery/

I give it a few days, if not a month, someone will find a way to unlock this
phone. I am an AT&T customer, and have an unlocked quadband gsm phone lying
around which I used as a Go Phone till I put the kids on the contract. If
going overseas, in my case, I'd take both my phone and the unlocked phone
for personal reasons so my mom could contact me if there's any problems, my
dads almost 90.

In article <4682dbce$0$27186$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Oxford wrote:
> >>
> >>> So in sum, yes, I agree the iPhone isn't the best in 10% of the places
> >>> people typically travel, but for day to day use it will be just fine.
> >> One thing I really don't like is the non-removable SIM card. When
> >> traveling overseas it's great to stick in an inexpensive prepaid SIM
> >> card and make calls at 10¢/minute rather than doing international
> >> roaming at $1-2 per minute. No doubt AT&T demanded a non-removable SIM
> >> card.
> >
> > well, the simm card is certainly removable, but you are right as of
> > today, there is no way to use it with a prepaid card.
>
> One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> articles say the same thing.

"Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
removed", which isn't quite the same thing.

Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)

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about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006

ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:

> > One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> > articles say the same thing.
>
> "Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
> removed", which isn't quite the same thing.
>
> Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
> with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)

nah, it just pops out.... scroll down

http://snipr.com/1nmz7

In article
<colalovesmacs-D9B5C9.23354727062007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:

> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> > > articles say the same thing.
> >
> > "Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
> > removed", which isn't quite the same thing.
> >
> > Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
> > with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)
>
> nah, it just pops out.... scroll down
>
> http://snipr.com/1nmz7

Interesting.

--
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006

Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:

> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> > > articles say the same thing.
> >
> > "Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
> > removed", which isn't quite the same thing.
> >
> > Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
> > with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)
>
> nah, it just pops out.... scroll down
>
> http://snipr.com/1nmz7

So could I buy one in the UK, stick in my Orange O2 PAYG SIM card and it
would be good to go as a mobile phone and pricey male jewelry combo?

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

Peter Hayes wrote:
> Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
>>>> articles say the same thing.
>>> "Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
>>> removed", which isn't quite the same thing.
>>>
>>> Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
>>> with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)
>> nah, it just pops out.... scroll down
>>
>> http://snipr.com/1nmz7
>
> So could I buy one in the UK, stick in my Orange O2 PAYG SIM card and it
> would be good to go as a mobile phone and pricey male jewelry combo?

No. It's subsidy locked to AT&T wireless.

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Peter Hayes wrote:
> > Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> One of the reviewers said that it wasn't removable, and most of the
> >>>> articles say the same thing.
> >>> "Not removable" almost certainly really means "not intended to be
> >>> removed", which isn't quite the same thing.
> >>>
> >>> Horribly inconvenient to remove, that's probably true. (I suspect as
> >>> with iPods, the case is not designed to let you in easily.)
> >> nah, it just pops out.... scroll down
> >>
> >> http://snipr.com/1nmz7
> >
> > So could I buy one in the UK, stick in my Orange O2 PAYG SIM card and it
> > would be good to go as a mobile phone and pricey male jewelry combo?
>
> No. It's subsidy locked to AT&T wireless.

I thought there was a ($175?) buy-out available.

--

Immunity is better than innoculation.

Peter

Peter Hayes wrote:

> I thought there was a ($175?) buy-out available.

You can break your contract for $175. That doesn't unlock the phone.

Sandman wrote:

> How many hours did it take before the AppleTv was hacked? Ok, maybe
> not the same thing, but still. These things get cracked *fast*.

It depends on how much effort was put into the locking scheme. Not
everything gets cracked. AFAIK, DirecTV is not cracked (DISH is
cracked). Some phones cannot be unlocked.