iPhone Question

Alright, I admit it. When the iPhone debuted, I was intrigued. I thought I
might want one. Do I understand correctly that it does not use a SIM card
like other GSM phones? Everyone else I know is on Verizons network and
they're constantly nagging me to switch for the free calls between
subscribers. I prefer the convenience of choosing which phone I want to take
when I leave the house by swapping out the SIM. The Treo comes to work, the
flip phone goes out to play. Once the iPhone is purchased and activated, my
other phones become paperweights? Also read the battery is not replaceable
by the user...gotta send it in to Apple to have it changed? Looks like I'll
pass.

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:13:01 -0400, "Ric" <no@way.com> wrote:

>Alright, I admit it. When the iPhone debuted, I was intrigued. I thought I
>might want one. Do I understand correctly that it does not use a SIM card
>like other GSM phones?

It uses a SIM card, but comes with its own pre-installed.


> Everyone else I know is on Verizons network and
>they're constantly nagging me to switch for the free calls between
>subscribers. I prefer the convenience of choosing which phone I want to take
>when I leave the house by swapping out the SIM. The Treo comes to work, the
>flip phone goes out to play. Once the iPhone is purchased and activated, my
>other phones become paperweights?

If it's replacing another phone on your account, maybe, Not obvious
yet.

> Also read the battery is not replaceable
>by the user...gotta send it in to Apple to have it changed? Looks like I'll
>pass.
>

http://www.ipodbatteryfaq.com/

In 3 years when you'd need one either you run into an Apple Store, or
Google a third party vendor. Thats what happened to the iPod.
Do you carry an extra car battery in your back pocket for your car?

<karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:13:01 -0400, "Ric" <no@way.com> wrote:
>
>>Alright, I admit it. When the iPhone debuted, I was intrigued. I thought I
>>might want one. Do I understand correctly that it does not use a SIM card
>>like other GSM phones?
>
> It uses a SIM card, but comes with its own pre-installed.
>
>
>> Everyone else I know is on Verizons network and
>>they're constantly nagging me to switch for the free calls between
>>subscribers. I prefer the convenience of choosing which phone I want to
>>take
>>when I leave the house by swapping out the SIM. The Treo comes to work,
>>the
>>flip phone goes out to play. Once the iPhone is purchased and activated,
>>my
>>other phones become paperweights?
>
> If it's replacing another phone on your account, maybe, Not obvious
> yet.
>
>> Also read the battery is not replaceable
>>by the user...gotta send it in to Apple to have it changed? Looks like
>>I'll
>>pass.
>>
>
> http://www.ipodbatteryfaq.com/
>
> In 3 years when you'd need one either you run into an Apple Store, or
> Google a third party vendor. Thats what happened to the iPod.
> Do you carry an extra car battery in your back pocket for your car?

The point of the SIM card question was...can I take it out and sap it into
one of my other phones as needed or am I restricted to having only one
useable phone because the SIM is not accessible by the consumer? And I
always have an extra battery on hand...and have needed it at times.

In article <BkLgi.47$Ff6.16@newsfe12.lga>, "Ric" <no@way.com> wrote:

> The point of the SIM card question was...can I take it out and sap it into
> one of my other phones as needed or am I restricted to having only one
> useable phone because the SIM is not accessible by the consumer? And I
> always have an extra battery on hand...and have needed it at times.

the iPhone sim card just pops out with a paperclip or straight pin, it's
right at the top of the phone and easily comes out.

as for the battery, the iPhone has BY FAR the longest run time of any
phone on the market. There is no reason to carry an extra one. Apple
basically engineered that "old problem" out of the phone. So you kinda
have to throw out the "old idea" that your battery will go down. It
won't. You can use it all week without a recharge. It even does stuff
like "senses the mass of your head", when you are talking, so it goes
dark to save battery life. but when you move it away from your head, it
brightens back up. very slick.

and lastly, in 3-5 years when it needs another one, it's only $20 to
replace. You do not have to send it to Apple. Any iPod vendor will sell
you the battery and it's going to be easy to replace. But in 3-5 years
you'll probably have a new iPhone by then anyway. So sell it on eBay for
$200 or whatever and get a new iPhone for $400. That's one of the cool
things about Apple stuff is it holds its value much better than any
other electronic product.

In article <markt-BC48FD.03471830092007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>,
Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net> wrote:

> as for the battery, the iPhone has BY FAR the longest run time of any
> phone on the market. There is no reason to carry an extra one. Apple
> basically engineered that "old problem" out of the phone.

That sounds like mattress marketing.

The mattress manufacturers chose to cut costs by not finishing the
second side of the mattress--it's flat now rather than upholstered. It
no longer has all the costly materials that it used to have on it. They
cut a tremendous amount of material and labor costs out of the mattress.

And how do they sell it? At a premium! LOOK AT MY MATTRESS, people!
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN IT! All that hassle is now GONE!

Yes sir, they engineered that "old problem" of having to wrestle with
the mattress to turn it right out of their mattresses--just like Apple
wrestled that "old problem" of having to CARRY another battery, having
to WRESTLE WITH THE COMPARTMENT DOOR, having to MAKE SURE IT'S INSTALLED
CORRECTLY, they wrestled those "problems" RIGHT out of the iPhone.

All hail Apple!




> and lastly, in 3-5 years when it needs another one, it's only $20 to
> replace. You do not have to send it to Apple. Any iPod vendor will sell
> you the battery and it's going to be easy to replace.

Hey, everyone, Mark Thompson is Oxford!

Quite literally. Oxford, you can't hide. You're too dumb.

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <markt-BC48FD.03471830092007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>,
> Mark Thompson <markt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> as for the battery, the iPhone has BY FAR the longest run time of any
>> phone on the market. There is no reason to carry an extra one. Apple
>> basically engineered that "old problem" out of the phone.
>
> That sounds like mattress marketing.
>
> The mattress manufacturers chose to cut costs by not finishing the
> second side of the mattress--it's flat now rather than upholstered. It
> no longer has all the costly materials that it used to have on it. They
> cut a tremendous amount of material and labor costs out of the mattress.
>
> And how do they sell it? At a premium! LOOK AT MY MATTRESS, people!
> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TURN IT! All that hassle is now GONE!
>
> Yes sir, they engineered that "old problem" of having to wrestle with
> the mattress to turn it right out of their mattresses--just like Apple
> wrestled that "old problem" of having to CARRY another battery, having
> to WRESTLE WITH THE COMPARTMENT DOOR, having to MAKE SURE IT'S INSTALLED
> CORRECTLY, they wrestled those "problems" RIGHT out of the iPhone.

The bigger issue is that you have to send the iPhone to Apple for
battery replacement, at a cost of over $100 if you want a loaner. I
understand why they soldered it in, it's a more reliable connection,
without troublesome small connectors.