Apple To Allow Third Party Apps ON iPhone

"John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

yep! it was only a matter of time before apple played its heavy hand...

expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
year. this is good news for everyone!

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Third Party Applications on the iPhone

Let me just say it: We want native third party applications on the
iPhone, and we plan to have an SDK in developers¹ hands in February. We
are excited about creating a vibrant third party developer community
around the iPhone and enabling hundreds of new applications for our
users. With our revolutionary multi-touch interface, powerful hardware
and advanced software architecture, we believe we have created the best
mobile platform ever for developers.

It will take until February to release an SDK because we¹re trying to do
two diametrically opposed things at once‹provide an advanced and open
platform to developers while at the same time protect iPhone users from
viruses, malware, privacy attacks, etc. This is no easy task. Some claim
that viruses and malware are not a problem on mobile phones‹this is
simply not true. There have been serious viruses on other mobile phones
already, including some that silently spread from phone to phone over
the cell network. As our phones become more powerful, these malicious
programs will become more dangerous. And since the iPhone is the most
advanced phone ever, it will be a highly visible target.

Some companies are already taking action. Nokia, for example, is not
allowing any applications to be loaded onto some of their newest phones
unless they have a digital signature that can be traced back to a known
developer. While this makes such a phone less than ³totally open,² we
believe it is a step in the right direction. We are working on an
advanced system which will offer developers broad access to natively
program the iPhone¹s amazing software platform while at the same time
protecting users from malicious programs.

We think a few months of patience now will be rewarded by many years of
great third party applications running on safe and reliable iPhones.

Steve

P.S.: The SDK will also allow developers to create applications for iPod
touch. [Oct 17, 2007]

"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-88CE63.12564117102007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> year. this is good news for everyone!

Not unless prices on iPhones drop significantly. Many people just don't use
any 3rd-party applications on their phone in the first place -- probably at
least 2/3rd of them: They're buying a phone based on what it can do "out of
the box" and price.

But I agree it's good news that Apple's opening up the iPhone to proper
development.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:56:41 -0600, Oxford wrote:

> "John" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/
>
> yep! it was only a matter of time before apple played its heavy hand...
>
> expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> year.

AHAH HA hHHA HHAh AHhah hha hHA hHAHhah ahha ha hHA ah ha...

--
Rick

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"Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-88CE63.12564117102007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> > expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> > year. this is good news for everyone!
>
> Not unless prices on iPhones drop significantly. Many people just don't use
> any 3rd-party applications on their phone in the first place -- probably at
> least 2/3rd of them: They're buying a phone based on what it can do "out of
> the box" and price.


The reason most people don't use phones with 3rd party apps is because
they didn't come installed in them.

And then they'd need to pay extra for any of the good (i.e. stable)
programs and have to go through a download and installation process.

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"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
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>
> expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> year. this is good news for everyone!
>
> -
>

As always, you just don't get it....

Example:
Blackberry = business tool
iPhone = cool toy - NOT a business tool (unless radically changed in the
future)

Bottom line, your prediction based on today's facts is stupid.

As usual.

"Joel Koltner" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> > year. this is good news for everyone!
>
> Not unless prices on iPhones drop significantly.

well, we all know that is going to happen within 24 months, an iPhone
nano for $199 is in the works, a $99 iPhone within 36 months. Apple
ALWAYS starts at the top and works its way down the price scale. So it's
only a question "of when" Apple sweeps out the lower handset makers.

> Many people just don't use
> any 3rd-party applications on their phone in the first place --

ah... WHAT? I think you must be using Windows. In the Apple world,
people use whatever they want since it's so EASY to try new software.

In the Windows world everyone has been "conditioned" to not try new
software, but nothing like that exists in the Apple space since there
are no penalties for using new software. The iPhone is the PERFECT
device to try new software without any risk. Plus it's FAR easier to
install / remove software on Macs / iPhones...

So I just had to LAUGH at that since that's a pure Windows issue, not an
Apple or iPhone one.

> probably at
> least 2/3rd of them: They're buying a phone based on what it can do "out of
> the box" and price.

But Apple will change all that... basically, the cell industry plays
under Apple's rule from this point forward. Everyone wants an iPhone
since it's more feature packed and far easier to use than any other cell
phone... we all know that. So once Apple moves the iPhone down the price
scale, it will remove "most" handset makers out of the market.

> But I agree it's good news that Apple's opening up the iPhone to proper
> development.

Yes, it's going to be a massive wave of innovation never before seen by
the cell industry. Never has such a large computer firm entered the cell
space, and since the cell industry is very uncompetitive, Apple will
wipe out much of what exists today... so it's going to fun to watch them
fall.

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Joel Koltner <JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-88CE63.12564117102007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net...
> > expect sales of WinMobile, Symbian and Blackberries to dry up within a
> > year. this is good news for everyone!
>
> Not unless prices on iPhones drop significantly. Many people just don't use
> any 3rd-party applications on their phone in the first place -- probably at
> least 2/3rd of them: They're buying a phone based on what it can do "out of
> the box" and price.

It also applies to the iPod Touch.

For anyone wanting an advanced highly portable computer, but doesn't
need the additional features of the iPhone (or the long term contract)
this makes the iPod Touch even more interesting.

The PDA market isn't as large as the cellphone market, but the iPod
Touch, iPhone or a future slightly larger model with full PDA
functionality and third party application support will be very
competitive with other brands and platforms, and could easily take over
that market.

> But I agree it's good news that Apple's opening up the iPhone to proper
> development.

This has removed one of my main reasons for not considering an iPod
Touch or an iPhone as a potential replacement for my dying Palm Treo
600. I do use third party software on my Treo and would like to be able
to do so on a replacement device.

I don't want to go to Windows Mobile because it doesn't work well with
the Mac.

Palm has dropped the ball on PalmOS, and a device based on OS X is far
more appealing to me as a Mac user.

I want a device which has full iPod, PDA and cellphone functionality.

If I can't get all three, I'm willing to sacrifice the phone (use a
cheap cellphone instead) but keep portable music and PDA functions on
one device.
--
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> As always, you just don't get it....
>
> Example:
> Blackberry = business tool
> iPhone = cool toy - NOT a business tool (unless radically changed in the
> future)

it was radically changed about 8 hours ago. didn't you get the memo?

no, blackberry doesn't stand a chance since by unit sales alone they
will be miniscule by this time next year. all business software
developers will FLOCK to the iPhone since they know that is the future
of all smart phones. RIMM doesn't stand a chance against apple at this
point in the game.

> Bottom line, your prediction based on today's facts is stupid.

What? Apple has totally altered markets before beyond recognition, this
is no different. Sure it takes awhile for people to catch up with what
I'm saying, but they always do when they see what is happening around
them.

"IMHO IIRC" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:

> > What? Apple has totally altered markets before beyond recognition, this
> > is no different. Sure it takes awhile for people to catch up with what
> > I'm saying, but they always do when they see what is happening around
> > them.
>
> Which is most likely within 4.5 years:
>
> 1. All cell phone users will have iPhones with ATT plans.
>
> 2. There be about the same ratio of iPhone users with ATT cell plans to
> other cell phone users as there are currently users of Apple computers to
> users of non-Apple computers.
>
> I would think number 2. :D

but those aren't the only 2 choices.

3) the iPhone is on all of the top 5 carriers within 2 years.

4) Apple and Google team up and buy their own part of the wireless
spectrum and do an end run around all cell carriers.

5) and many more...

most likely is No. 3 of course.... if those companies can modernize
enough to support Visual Voice Mail and very high bandwidth devices.

In news:colalovesmacs-C9FB72.20143517102007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net,
Oxford <colalovesmacs@smart.com> typed:
> "IMHO IIRC" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote:
>
>>> What? Apple has totally altered markets before beyond recognition, this
>>> is no different. Sure it takes awhile for people to catch up with what
>>> I'm saying, but they always do when they see what is happening around
>>> them.
>>
>> Which is most likely within 4.5 years:
>>
>> 1. All cell phone users will have iPhones with ATT plans.
>>
>> 2. There be about the same ratio of iPhone users with ATT cell plans to
>> other cell phone users as there are currently users of Apple computers to
>> users of non-Apple computers.
>>
>> I would think number 2. :D
>
> but those aren't the only 2 choices.
>
> 3) the iPhone is on all of the top 5 carriers within 2 years.
>
> 4) Apple and Google team up and buy their own part of the wireless
> spectrum and do an end run around all cell carriers.
>
> 5) and many more...
>
> most likely is No. 3 of course.... if those companies can modernize
> enough to support Visual Voice Mail and very high bandwidth devices.

Why do you need high bandwidth? I thought everything was done with WiFi.
How long does ATT have an exclusive on the iPhone in the US? I thought it
was 5 years.
Also the iPhone is only GSM - is Apple also designing one that is CDMA?