Mail from iTunes store, one week after buying iPhone

In article <ck6a45llhalrttpjkt9h0sbotfg3u5an57@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> >other people have different needs and one person's drek is another
> >> >person's gem.
> >>
> >> Probably at least 80% dreck by any standard.
> >
> >so what? its not like 80% of windows or mac apps aren't drek either,
>
> Most of the Windows and Mac dreck has been relegated to direct,
> shareware or the dustbin by now. Check the number of software SKUs
> carried by major retailers.

plenty of what's available at major retailers is also drek and plenty
that's available via shareware is not. different apps for different
needs.

> >maybe even higher and 20% non-drek is still 11,000 apps, some of which
> >are unavailable on any other platform.
>
> I didn't say all the rest were not dreck. I said "AT LEAST 80%" were
> dreck. [emphasis added] Read more carefully, and stop twisting what
> I say.

it doesn't matter what the percentage is. if people find useful apps,
that's all that matters. whether you think those apps are drek is
completely irrelevant.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:13:25 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <260620091513253907%nospam@nospam.invalid>:

>In article <ck6a45llhalrttpjkt9h0sbotfg3u5an57@4ax.com>, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>> Most of the Windows and Mac dreck has been relegated to direct,
>> shareware or the dustbin by now. Check the number of software SKUs
>> carried by major retailers.
>
>plenty of what's available at major retailers is also drek and plenty
>that's available via shareware is not. different apps for different
>needs.

You ducked the point I made. Why am I not surprised.

>> I didn't say all the rest were not dreck. I said "AT LEAST 80%" were
>> dreck. [emphasis added] Read more carefully, and stop twisting what
>> I say.
>
>it doesn't matter what the percentage is. ...

Agreed, but then I'm not the one doing the silly boasting.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do fans keep making excuses for it?

"Jackzwick" <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4a443826$0$17044$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
> John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It is just an invoice.
>
> An invoice for $0.00
>
> In under 2 hours I downloaded 62 apps, (all free) a number many times
> greater than the total number of apps available for the Palm Pre.


And 62 more downloadable apps than the iPhone had available its entire first
year on the market. How quickly we've forgotten that at one time "webapps
are all we'll need." ;)



> There
> are 50,000 apps currently in Apple's app store. The Palm Pre wont
> interact with Palm Desktop, where as the iPhone has totally variable
> sync capabilities. Mine's set to handle 4 email addresses, 1300 Songs,
> 86 pictures, and a few movies and TV shows as my Nero 9 quickly and
> easily (Nero Recode) converts Videos into MPG4 for watching on the
> iPhone.


Syncing PIM data via iTunes, in a word, sucks. I've set up my wife's iPhone
to use Google's Mobile Sync so it syncs automatically over the air. Syncing
via cable is so 1999.

I've never tried Nero Recode- how is it? Following a suggestion in the
iPhone NG, I tried Handbrake to convert to iPhone format. It does a
phenominal quality job converting to .mp4 or .m4v and is lightning quick
compared to most reencoders I've tried.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:51 -0600, "Todd Allcock"
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in <vt91m.10$WC2.9@newsfe10.iad>:

>I've never tried Nero Recode- how is it?

Not stellar, but pretty good, close to QuickTime Pro, which for only $30
is a good investment.

>Following a suggestion in the
>iPhone NG, I tried Handbrake to convert to iPhone format. It does a
>phenominal quality job converting to .mp4 or .m4v and is lightning quick
>compared to most reencoders I've tried.

Free FFmpeg with the WinFF GUI <http://winff.org> does the best
conversions I know of. If you ever decide to give it a serious try, let
me know -- I've written some special profiles for mobiles.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do fans keep making excuses for it?

In article <7n7a45d12ga0pkum77eurot38hf5u5lmua@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >it doesn't matter what the percentage is. ...
>
> Agreed, but then I'm not the one doing the silly boasting.

nor am i. instead, you're just needlessly bashing.

In article <vt91m.10$WC2.9@newsfe10.iad>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> > In under 2 hours I downloaded 62 apps, (all free) a number many times
> > greater than the total number of apps available for the Palm Pre.
>
> And 62 more downloadable apps than the iPhone had available its entire first
> year on the market. How quickly we've forgotten that at one time "webapps
> are all we'll need." ;)

lame as web apps may be, it was an interim solution. the sdk was
planned all along and it shows. plus, web apps are actually useful for
some things.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:55:51 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <260620091555519410%nospam@nospam.invalid>:

>In article <7n7a45d12ga0pkum77eurot38hf5u5lmua@4ax.com>, John Navas
><spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >it doesn't matter what the percentage is. ...
>>
>> Agreed, but then I'm not the one doing the silly boasting.
>
>nor am i. instead, you're just needlessly bashing.

If you think facts are bashing, then you've got a siege mentality.

--
Best regards,
John <http:/navasgroup.com>

If the iPhone is really so impressive,
why do fans keep making excuses for it?

In article <f2aa45lr14t2immmurvchtuj3b1lbe37q5@4ax.com>, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >> >it doesn't matter what the percentage is. ...
> >>
> >> Agreed, but then I'm not the one doing the silly boasting.
> >
> >nor am i. instead, you're just needlessly bashing.
>
> If you think facts are bashing, then you've got a siege mentality.

you mean the facts i keep refuting?

"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:38:51 -0600, "Todd Allcock"
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in <vt91m.10$WC2.9@newsfe10.iad>:
>
>>I've never tried Nero Recode- how is it?
>
> Not stellar, but pretty good, close to QuickTime Pro, which for only $30
> is a good investment.
>
>>Following a suggestion in the
>>iPhone NG, I tried Handbrake to convert to iPhone format. It does a
>>phenominal quality job converting to .mp4 or .m4v and is lightning quick
>>compared to most reencoders I've tried.
>
> Free FFmpeg with the WinFF GUI <http://winff.org> does the best
> conversions I know of. If you ever decide to give it a serious try, let
> me know -- I've written some special profiles for mobiles.

Thanks for the offer, but I'm a creature of habit. I've settled into using
Handbreak for iPhone/.mp4, TMPGenc for Zune/WinMo/.wmv (very easy and robust
clip, crop, audio volume, etc., editing features) and occasionally fire up
SUPER for anything "weird"- like Nintendo DS video. SUPER can do it all
itself, but it actually beat iTunes for my personal choice of most
counter-intuitive UI I've ever encountered. Solving a Rubik's Cube
blindfolded would be a less frustrating task than setting up SUPER properly
without forgetting to correct one of it's myriad of ridiculously pre-chosen
presets. (10 fps video? Who would choose that as a preset value in this
day and age? But my daughter will be watching High School Musical 2 in
jerkyvision on her NDS this weekend because I was in a hurry and didn't
create a new profile before ripping it last night for her scout camping trip
today!)

"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:260620091557536698%nospam@nospam.invalid...
> In article <vt91m.10$WC2.9@newsfe10.iad>, Todd Allcock
> <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
>> > In under 2 hours I downloaded 62 apps, (all free) a number many times
>> > greater than the total number of apps available for the Palm Pre.
>>
>> And 62 more downloadable apps than the iPhone had available its entire
>> first
>> year on the market. How quickly we've forgotten that at one time
>> "webapps
>> are all we'll need." ;)
>
> lame as web apps may be, it was an interim solution. the sdk was
> planned all along and it shows. plus, web apps are actually useful for
> some things.

Agreed. While I love a good Apple bash as much as anyone, ;), I'm surprised
the very same tech press that bashed "webapps" when Apple announced it, is
praising Palm for developing an entire "revolutionary" OS around the
concept! Fair is fair-either webapps were "good enough" then, or not good
enough now. You can't have it both ways, unless the tech press is so
desperate for the "next" iPhone they'll heap praise on anything new to
create a buzz, (which seems more likely, since no one remembers the eternal
string of "iPhone killers" the press extolled the virtues of: the Instincts,
Voyagers, etc. are already wireless "footnotes."