Not getting an iPhone this Xmas

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:

>Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
>>
>>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the page
>>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
>>> comfortable with.
>>
>> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
>> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
>> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
>> fatal. Highlights:
>>
>> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
>> music files)
>> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
>> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
>> day-to-day music synching)
>> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
>> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
>> items
>>
>My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
>of it. Will never buy another car without it.

Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
built into their car.


>And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
>Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
>full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
>fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
>pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...


Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.

In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
> >>
> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the page
> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
> >>> comfortable with.
> >>
> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
> >> fatal. Highlights:
> >>
> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
> >> music files)
> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
> >> day-to-day music synching)
> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
> >> items
> >>
> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
>
> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
> built into their car.
>
>
> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
>
>
> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.

I do. What's the problem?

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"Ron" <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>>> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
>>>
>>>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the
>>>> page
>>>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
>>>> comfortable with.
>>>
>>> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
>>> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
>>> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
>>> fatal. Highlights:
>>>
>>> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
>>> music files)
>>> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
>>> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
>>> day-to-day music synching)
>>> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
>>> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
>>> items
>>>
>>My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
>>of it. Will never buy another car without it.
>
> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
> built into their car.
>
This is true. My wife's lexus has one built in the dash from the
factory. I put my Garman
Nuvi 660 in there and it has a faster responce then the factory one.
>
>>And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
>>Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
>>full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
>>fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
>>pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
>
>
> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.

On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:36:56 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
> Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
>> >>
>> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the page
>> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
>> >>> comfortable with.
>> >>
>> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
>> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
>> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
>> >> fatal. Highlights:
>> >>
>> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
>> >> music files)
>> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
>> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
>> >> day-to-day music synching)
>> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
>> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
>> >> items
>> >>
>> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
>> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
>>
>> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
>> built into their car.
>>
>>
>> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
>> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
>> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
>> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
>> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
>>
>>
>> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.
>
>I do. What's the problem?



You must be much younger than I not to get cramps or worse in your
fingers from using an iPhone for browsing over long periods

In article <vuduk3h878a1hi63hmmgca3rqeb8h5sk4u@4ax.com>,
Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:36:56 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> >> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the
> >> >>> page
> >> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
> >> >>> comfortable with.
> >> >>
> >> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
> >> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
> >> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
> >> >> fatal. Highlights:
> >> >>
> >> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
> >> >> music files)
> >> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
> >> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
> >> >> day-to-day music synching)
> >> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
> >> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
> >> >> items
> >> >>
> >> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
> >> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
> >>
> >> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
> >> built into their car.
> >>
> >>
> >> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
> >> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
> >> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
> >> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
> >> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
> >>
> >>
> >> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.
> >
> >I do. What's the problem?
>
>
>
> You must be much younger than I not to get cramps or worse in your
> fingers from using an iPhone for browsing over long periods

You've got to be kidding.
Probably older than you.
Never had "finger fatigue". LOL

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:15 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <vuduk3h878a1hi63hmmgca3rqeb8h5sk4u@4ax.com>,
> Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:36:56 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
>> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>> >> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the
>> >> >>> page
>> >> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
>> >> >>> comfortable with.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
>> >> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
>> >> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
>> >> >> fatal. Highlights:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
>> >> >> music files)
>> >> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
>> >> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
>> >> >> day-to-day music synching)
>> >> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications and
>> >> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
>> >> >> items
>> >> >>
>> >> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every minute
>> >> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
>> >>
>> >> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
>> >> built into their car.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
>> >> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
>> >> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
>> >> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
>> >> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.
>> >
>> >I do. What's the problem?
>>
>>
>>
>> You must be much younger than I not to get cramps or worse in your
>> fingers from using an iPhone for browsing over long periods
>
>You've got to be kidding.
>Probably older than you.
>Never had "finger fatigue". LOL


Don't break your arm, patting yourself on the back.

When and if there's an iPhone with a 640 x 480 screen
I'll reconsider. AT&T has already leaked that a 3G iPhone
is coming next year.

Meanwhile I'm loving my Garmin GPS.

In article <0hc1l31d400mjp7h1qd8hdkr5esp4bjddm@4ax.com>,
Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:15 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <vuduk3h878a1hi63hmmgca3rqeb8h5sk4u@4ax.com>,
> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:36:56 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
> >> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> >> >> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the
> >> >> >>> page
> >> >> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
> >> >> >>> comfortable with.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
> >> >> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
> >> >> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
> >> >> >> fatal. Highlights:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
> >> >> >> music files)
> >> >> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
> >> >> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
> >> >> >> day-to-day music synching)
> >> >> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
> >> >> >> items
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every
> >> >> >minute
> >> >> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
> >> >> built into their car.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
> >> >> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
> >> >> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
> >> >> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
> >> >> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.
> >> >
> >> >I do. What's the problem?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You must be much younger than I not to get cramps or worse in your
> >> fingers from using an iPhone for browsing over long periods
> >
> >You've got to be kidding.
> >Probably older than you.
> >Never had "finger fatigue". LOL
>
>
> Don't break your arm, patting yourself on the back.
>
> When and if there's an iPhone with a 640 x 480 screen
> I'll reconsider. AT&T has already leaked that a 3G iPhone
> is coming next year.

Don't wait on my account.

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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:37:13 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <0hc1l31d400mjp7h1qd8hdkr5esp4bjddm@4ax.com>,
> Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:30:15 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <vuduk3h878a1hi63hmmgca3rqeb8h5sk4u@4ax.com>,
>> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:36:56 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <tphtk3d415gpv85i4g8mhdh5v1li5333g7@4ax.com>,
>> >> > Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:47:01 -0600, Mike M <mikasn@swbell.net> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
>> >> >> >> Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Kurt said:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> I use it everyday - works pretty fast, and because you can flip the
>> >> >> >>> page
>> >> >> >>> horizontally, I often don't have to enlarge. It's all what you're
>> >> >> >>> comfortable with.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Much to my surprise, I actually like the iPhone, in general. It's a
>> >> >> >> very slick device. However, I won't be getting one anytime soon
>> >> >> >> because it does have some drawbacks, some minor, some major, and one
>> >> >> >> fatal. Highlights:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> * It's storage is non-expandable via memory cards (I have >17GB of
>> >> >> >> music files)
>> >> >> >> * It's battery is not user-replaceable
>> >> >> >> * It uses iTunes (though I presume Winamp would also work for
>> >> >> >> day-to-day music synching)
>> >> >> >> * I have a lot of use and money invested in my PalmOS applications
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> there are no viable iPhone replacements for some of my must-have
>> >> >> >> items
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >My GPS came installed in my Honda 5 yrs ago and I've loved every
>> >> >> >minute
>> >> >> >of it. Will never buy another car without it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Many reviews of the Garmin GPS' say its far better than whatever was
>> >> >> built into their car.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >And I love my IPhone too. Retired the 3G Nokia N75 3 months ago.
>> >> >> >Iphone does everything I want/need. Even with the 4GB it's only half
>> >> >> >full, I have enough movies and music to fill my free time. And my
>> >> >> >fingers never tire from a few little stretch gestures, don't do much
>> >> >> >pinching, and can't say I've heard of this...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then you dont browse for 30 or 60 minutes at a time.
>> >> >
>> >> >I do. What's the problem?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> You must be much younger than I not to get cramps or worse in your
>> >> fingers from using an iPhone for browsing over long periods
>> >
>> >You've got to be kidding.
>> >Probably older than you.
>> >Never had "finger fatigue". LOL
>>
>>
>> Don't break your arm, patting yourself on the back.
>>
>> When and if there's an iPhone with a 640 x 480 screen
>> I'll reconsider. AT&T has already leaked that a 3G iPhone
>> is coming next year.
>
>Don't wait on my account.


If you had actually read any of the original post, you'd know full
well that I took my $$ and bought a Garmin GPS instead of an iPhone.

Those that spent so much on an iPhone are unwilling to admit to
themselves that maybe its less than perfect with no 3G, no GPS,
no To DO List, etc, etc. A 3 1/2 " screen is GREAT for a GPS,
not so great for squeezing in a keyboard or trying to do
Internet Browsing.